Do we know who our friends are?

Cross posted from Rational Resistance

Here’s the news. I saw it on TV tonight, but I just found it in the Times.

You’ve probably heard part of this story already. Cheney was over in Pakistan earlier this week, apparently to kick Musharraf’s ass about cooperating with us on tracking down terrorists. He then gave an interview–correction, “a senior administration official”–gave a group  interview talking about Cheney’s meeting with Musharraf. The senior administration official seemed pretty well informed about the private meeting between Cheney and Musharraf, and seemed very interested in pointing out inaccuracies in press reports of this meeting.

For instance, did Cheney have this meeting to beat up on Musharraf?

A: That’s not the way I work. I don’t know who writes that, or maybe somebody gets it from some source who doesn’t know what I’m doing, or isn’t involved in it. But the idea that I’d go in and threaten someone is an invalid misreading of the way I do business.

So whoever the senior administration official is, he is apparently in a position to use the first person singular when referring to Vice President Richard Cheney.

Okay, so far it’s just ridiculous, a story of a little charade Cheney and the press agreed to.

Now, here’s the good part. Cheney goes over to demand that Musharraf do a better job at rounding up terrorists, and the same day, what happens? Pakistani forces pick up a terrorist, a really big one.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 1 – The former Taliban defense minister was arrested in Pakistan on Monday, the day of Vice President Dick Cheney‘s visit, two government officials said Thursday. He is the most important Taliban member to be captured since the American-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

   

The man, Mullah Obaidullah, was a senior leader of the Afghan insurgency, which has battled American and NATO forces with increasing intensity over the last year.

He is one of the inner core around Mullah Muhammad Omar, the Taliban leader. The leadership is believed to operate from the relative safety of Quetta, Pakistan, where Mullah Obaidullah was arrested.

This is good news, right? After all, this is almost the top guy over there, bigger than anyone else we’ve picked up.

So what’s the problem? Well, to hear Bush tell it, the Pakistanis are our stalwart allies, standing side by side with us, fighting terrorists and building democracy (okay, that part may not be that important). But what happened on Monday? Cheney went over, demanded that they start handing over some terrorists, and that just happens to be the day they pick up one of the biggest targets of all.

I don’t think so. If they could pick him up Monday, they could pick him up Sunday. Isn’t it obvious that they have known where this guy was all along, but they weren’t sufficiently motivated until Vice President Senior went over and threw his weight around?

And if I’m right about that, doesn’t that also mean they’ve been protecting him?

And if they’re protecting this guy, what are the odds they aren’t protecting bin Laden?

Good thing we let al Qaeda out of Tora Bora so we could invade Iraq, isn’t it?

SVR and Racism

I feel a need to weigh in on the issue of whether Naylor and others associated with the Second Vermont Republic movement are tied to racists, racist movements and racism in general. 

In his book, The Vermont Manifesto, Naylor quotes one H. Newcomb Morse of Pepperdine Law School on why the confederate secession was legal.  For those unfamiliar with Pepperdine, the school is fundamentalist and the Dean of the Law School is Kenneth Starr —  yes that Ken Starr. 

“…Morse argues that the proper way for a state to leave the Union is through a state convention elected by the PEOPLE (emphasis ew) of the state to decide one and only one issue, namely the right of self-determination.  According to…Morse every Confederate State properly used the convention process.”

There it is folks – racism to the very core.  The clear and simple meaning of the above is that blacks and women are not people.  Only white men (and not all of them) could vote. 

In Morse’s list of reasons why secession was legal, he fails to mention the need to good faith negotiate assets and liabilities and also fails to provide for a period of time during which those who find themselves on the wrong side of the divide can change location.  As well, he fails to discuss the issue of secession from the seceding entities. 

There are separatist movement in many countries.  I find it interesting that Naylor doesn’t discuss the separatist movement in Quebec.  Separatist movements are all over the political map.  The only justification for separatism is that liberty and participation are not protected and respected in the current regime.  The notion of separation to protect tyranny, slavery, and oppression should be anathema.  And that’s what the Confederate States of America were all about.

Montpelier Democrats Meet to Select Nominee(s)

( – promoted by Jack McCullough)

The Montpelier Democratic Committee will be meeting on Thursday, March 8, at 6:00 P.M. The purpose of the meeting is to nominate candidates to replace Rep. Francis Brooks, who has retired from the House of Representatives after more than two decades of service to the people of Montpelier and the state.

The meeting will be held at the East Montpelier Room of the Kellogg-Hubbard Library.

Bill Doyle’s blog

Photo: State Senator Bill Doyle, Washington County, Vermont; citizen legislator and blogger (photo via billdoylevt.com); click here to be redirected to his blogDid you know that state Senator Bill Doyle had a blog? (if not, me neither; had only just came across the Web address for it on his annual town meeting survey form for this year)

His blog is at billdoylevt.com: Senator Bill Doyle’s Official Website.

Read an article about Senator Doyle’s annual Town Meeting Day survey, here [via Barre – Montpelier Times Argus (Wednesday, February 28, 2007)].

fyi: Town Meeting Day

[cross-posted at Norsehorse’s Home Turf, here]

What Steve West Said…

As Jack mentioned below, Steve West, co-host of Live & Local on WKVT 1490, wrote this reaction to the attack on John Odum…

…I’m reading a vitriolic screed by a man defending his own anti-racism credentials (which have not been questioned), slamming the character of Mr. Odum (who he does not know), and implying that Mr. Odum’s employer should put a tighter leash on him.

No matter what the details of this discussion……….that’s just not cool.

Any hope of keeping the “moral high ground” that SVR and Mr. Naylor had prior to this phenomenon is gone. He has displayed some fairly childish “schoolyard bully” behaviors, and has entirely alienated at least one potential comrade to the SVR cause……….meaning me.

Even if Odum’s posting was wildly off base and without merit……………the response was, dare I say, nasty and personal, and only tangentially addressed the issue. At this point, frankly, I’m pretty tired of the whole thing already. But now, today, John Odum says that, in order to keep the peace at his workplace, he is stepping down from GMD, where he has helped to add intelligence, humor, and energy to the political dialogue in Vermont.

And that’s just not right.

And to Professor Naylor and others of like mind at SVR, I say……….right or wrong, I’ll stick by John Odum on this one. He has shown himself to be, in my experience, intellectually honest and well-intended. I cannot say the same of the responses I’ve read from SVR.

And now I, for one, will redirect my attention to more immediate and measurable threats, while hoping that Odum reconsiders.

Well said, Steve. And thanks for saying it.

More coverage of the purge (Updated)

Cathy Resmer covers the VNRC purge of GMD founder and former blogger John Odum here.

Cathy says: I’m sorry to see him go, especially in this way. He says GMD will continue without him.

Exactly right, Cathy. We feel the loss here, but we’re going to keep it up.

From the extreme right (I hope she doesn’t object to that description), She’s Right blogger Charity Tensel also covers this story, describing the loss this way: This is a great loss for political blogging. Odum’s thoughtful posts and comments kept GMD in the realm of sensible discussion. He was an anchor, a rock, keeping the blog focused on remaining relevant and holding it back from slipping into the realm of radicalism.

Philip Baruth has the same story, along with a photo of John (I’m not sure we’ve ever posted photos of him here.)

Philip: The Vermont blogosphere is still very much in its infancy, and it depends on a handful of sites for its signature feel. Green Mountain Daily has been, and will remain, one of those deep-anchor sites. And although others have contributed greatly, GMD is John Odum’s brain child, and his love child, and its success is in large part his success.

We also have this link from Reason and Brimstone.

… And this just in.

Steve West of WKVT’s “Live & Local” has now weighed in with his take on the story. Check out his latest – and very funny – blog entry, Odum Addendum and dem Demagogues.


Haik also covers the story, with a different angle. We know that this wasn’t about Snarky, but he couldn’t restrain himself from chiming in. You kind of have to wonder what would motivate someone like that, don’t you?

If you’re a regular reader of these pages you know about this story, but it’s obvious now that this decision is going beyond the world of Green Mountain Daily.

When you read about attacks on journalism, and particular citizen journalism of the kind we practice here, you don’t necessarily think about relatively enlightened places like Vermont.  Now we know that we cannot afford to be complacent.

Thank you all for your support.

from JD – article in Seven Days here.

Who is “drawing blood?”

(Although there is a thinking that this issue should be allowed to decompress some, I am promoting this post to the front page for a very specific reason: to serve notice on any concerned that while John Odum may be rendered (hopefully temporarily) silent, GMD is larger than any one man, and cannot be silenced through threats or intimidation. Like the Hydra of myth: cut off one head, and two more take its place. Nota bene. – promoted by kestrel9000)

Thanks John for putting Vermont’s “Democratic wing of the Democratic party” on the national emerging media map.  Seeing Front Pagers here at GMD recognized for their insight at DKos as well as having GMD providing a Vermont home at MYDD is a source of pride. 


Below the fold – kestrel9000

To all the folks reading this, notice what John said about  “drawing blood.” John has the decency of giving us an honest explanation of why he is stepping out.  I think he owes us that much just as we owe him our appreciation. However, John is far too classy, and as we’ve come to see over the past year far too loyal a person to let us know WHERE the blood was drawn.  In fact, I don’t even see in his post an express mention of who drew the blood.

Sure Thomas Naylor wrote a smear job against John.  Still, I question whether the rambling and generally unnoticed delusional ravings of a truth-cripple drew any blood.  Ever since the fact-addled relic Naylor stumbled to his mailbox to deliver a fact challenged a press release, his natural allies have understandably faded into the woodwork.  Don’t blame them.   Explaining Naylor’s charges, even Tony Snow or Ari Fleischer would be reduced to blushing as they spouted off a string of “that factual scenario is no longer operative” excuses.  

The fact is Naylor et al. threw a little hissy fit about their connections with bigoted revisionist Southerners who glorify the slaughter of Americans by treasonous Confederate insurgents who sought to destroy the United States solely to protect their ability to commit crimes against humanity through slavery, lynching and genocide.  Nice folks.  As Mr. Robinson famously said to Benjamin in The Graduate, Mr. Naylor “You’ll forgive me if I don’t shake your hand.”

In the grand scheme of things, Naylor et al. are gadfly piss-ants hidden in tire treads on Vermont’s political runway.  I don’t say this gloatingly either.  Admittedly, some of these folks espouse a pipe dream that is extremely attractive — as are all pipe dreams.  Also, there is a modicum of intellectual heft behind SVR.  

So why do I suggest that Naylor — a fact-addled piss-ant-non-factor in Vermont political conversation — did not necessary draw blood, at least directly?  Read this portion of his press release:

The insidious lies disseminated by the anonymous blogger are hyped by VNRC staff member John Odum on his Green Mountain Daily (GMD) website, and by members of the Green Mountain Collective. Odum (whose e-mail address – (coincidentally? – contains the phrase “poetworld”) is a Democratic Party political hack who used to work for Bernie Sanders and is vehemently opposed to peaceable secession. [snip]
Whether Odum’s Green Mountain Daily (GMD) website is subsidized by VNRC is unknown to us. However, it is surprising that VNRC Executive Director Elizabeth Courtney appears to allow Odum to publicly engage in character assassination activities against an organization like SVR, whose basic principles  . . . [are] not dissimilar to those professed by VNRC.

Aside for the fact that there is enough hogshit in that snippet to overflow the  largest fecal lagoon in pig country, Naylor is obviously trying to get someone else to exercise influence over Vermont’s political discourse that is unimaginable to him.  Who has the indirect influence that Naylor never had, does not have and never will have?  Read: “[I]t is surprising that VNRC Executive Director Elizabeth Courtney appears to allow Odum to publicly engage in character assassination activities against an organization like SVR.” Hmmh. 

GMD is a spare-time project of a father, husband and person who toils at a day job like the rest of us.  This story has stirred the emotions of a few on the fringe, but like every outliner dustup, it will soon be forgotten.  Similarly, Naylor is a soon to be forgotten harmless old crank gasping for media oxygen whenever and wherever he can get it and is no individual threat to anyone.  VNRC has nothing to do with GMD but it is everything to John.  VNRC is John’s BLOOD. 

Here, John creates a forum for discussion, we discuss, GMD exists — that’s the basic formula.

Until this soapy operatic, I confess that I did not know where John worked.  Many people I’ve discussed this with, political junkie friends, colleagues who work in/around the Statehouse and others who work in non-profits/advocacy groups here in the Montpelier area where I live, have raised the specter of the Chris Graff affair.

I disagree that this is similar to the Chris Graff affair.  Chris Graff was fired from his job for doing his job.  Naylor is neither the AP nor VNRC and GMD does not employ John, VNRC does.  The analogy is just too tenuous for me.  Naylor’s press release implicating Elizabeth Courtney is, however, a seeming attempt by him to play puppet-master over John’s employer.  If the powers-that-be at VNRC have their strings pulled this easily, the analogy still won’t work but the result will be the same.

If VNRC caves, the effect of this is no different than any of us having our employers receive threats or harassment due to letters to the editor we write in our spare time.  What John is doing by cultivating a discussion forum and liberal Democratic blog for citizen journalism is old-fashioned good-citizenship.  This is something we need much more of these days.  Sadly, however, our employers can affect whether we use our citizenship talents.  If I am correctly reading between the lines here, Naylor is trying to get Elizabeth Courtney to throw cold water on John’s spare time community citizenship contributions.  What’s next, our employers telling what to (not) say at Town Meeting?

This brings me back to my point about this relative insignificance of this story.  While no one will remember this soapy operatic in a few days, no one will forget if John is “Graffed” or gagged by his employer.  I hope I am wrong about my “reading between the lines here.”  Obviously John is laying all the blame at heat generated by the blogespheric SVR controversy and not at his workplace. 

Still, I keep thinking about that statement about “drawing blood.”  Just as Deep Throat suggested that we “follow the money” I suggest that we “follow the blood.”  John’s metaphoric blood is his day job.  I could not be a good parent, husband or a good citizen without a job.  My job is my metaphoric blood and I know it.  John has found a way to give back to his community and make a valuable citizenship contribution through GMD. 

I, as a fellow citizen, would feel better knowing that John is taking a break from the understandable stress of this ridiculous distraction.  On the other hand, if his employer is caving to associates of people who glorify terrorism, genocide, slavery and the violent upheaval that came close to destroying the United States, then I don’t see this story going away for a long time.  SVR’s mouse-that-roared press release is an asterisk attached to a footnote about story that is a non-event.  Vermont’s most successful new media political blog having its founder pressured by his employer from being a contributing citizen is a story with long legs and an elephant’s memory, however.

It is obvious to all that come here that there is no relationship between VNRC and GMD.  Were there a relationship with any outside single agenda groups, even ones with which we may have philosophical propinquity, I doubt any of us would want to be a part of this community.  This blog is about Democratic & democratic politics and progressive liberal policy.  I hope we readers of GMD will receive a signal from VNRC that they are not tampering with John’s spare time citizenship activities. 

Call me presumptuous, but I believe I have a right to the benefits of folks in my community exercising acts of good citizenship, in their spare time, without their employers pressuring them to shut up rather risk giving the vapors to hooded wingnuts.

slainte,
cl

Pro-Iraq VT Senate Testimony – any takers?

Today’s Times Argus is reporting that the Vermont Senate committee which is hearing testimony from anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan want to have a balanced discussion on the matter. Problem is, they can’t find someone willing to testify in support of the war:

Committee Chairman Sen. Vincent Illuzzi, R-Essex-Orleans said Monday that he has been unable to find anyone to testify in favor of the four-year-old war during the noontime hearing in the Senate chambers later this week.

Illuzzi said he has contacted the state departments of Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion, along with representatives of the Vermont National Guard Enlisted Association, but none wanted to come before the committee opposite Sheehan.

“I wanted a balanced hearing to show that there are two sides to the question,” Illuzzi explained. “But so far everyone had declined the opportunity to speak in favor of the war.”

Why not ask Barre City Rep. Leo Valliere? He seems to have some strong opinions on it, considering he has spoken out against the VT legislature’s antiwar resolution:

Rep. Leo Valliere, R-Barre, spoke twice against the resolution because of the message he said it would send to the American military and the enemy. “I wasn’t elected to aid and abet the enemy.”

You’d think someone with such strong opinions as Valliere would relish the opportunity to take one of the right-wing’s favorite targets, Cindy Sheehan, right? Don’t hold your breath. The hearing will be held at noon in the Senate Chamber in the Statehouse, Montpelier, Friday, March 2nd. 

Let Me Just Say ‘This’ About ‘That’

OK, for those of us interested and involved in the political questions and possibilities raised by the Second Vermont Republic organization and the notion of regional secession from the “United” States, I have something here.  For those not interested in such things, I suggest you skip along to a different diary; but before you do head, perhaps I could interest you in a quick rant…..

…..I would like to suggest, despite whatever realistic or practical arguments can or can’t be made about the idea of secession, the fact is that the SVR has (almost) brought a conversation regarding the role of the State and the Federal government in our daily lives to the discussion table in a legitimate manner unseen since the progressive era of the early 1900’s and the days of “radical” mainstream politics like that of Eugene Debs.  If we’re going to be engaged in politics, and do so under the guise of trying to make the world (or our simply our individual lives) better, than a sincere question of what and who has power is very legitimate, necessary, and healthy in moving us (our society and culture) forward.

Here is an article I just found in which the author bemoans the sad state of affairs for one of the first independent, most progressive, “activist” internet media sites (indymedia.org).  As you can read in the article, it points out that it is precisely the lack of an active, anti-racist, anti-right wing, and pro “open” and “non-judgemental” agenda that has proven to be the downfall of one of the left’s most visible and valuable resources over the past few years.  I think this is precisely the situation that has fallen upon the SVR, and I sincerely think that instead of defending the morally indefensible, and instead of attacking those who are supportive of their aims but uncomfortable with their methods, the SVR should grow-up and admit to making a mistake and engage in a constructive (and re-constructive) dialogue rather than continue on its march to irrelevancy and political obscurity.

On a a more relevant and practical scale to most of those on this website, I would suggest that this all has a useful lesson for the Democrats and Progressives to learn as well:  naming certain (political) ideas as ‘wrong’, ‘short-sighted’, ‘racist’, or whatever, is sometimes necessary.  It is not that the idea of “working together” or being “bi-partisan” is useless.  But, I mean, when the right has power they make little to no effort to be so inclusive of ideas or people that they disagree with and think are wrong.  It is high time that the practice of “relativistic pluralism” (meaning, there are an infinite plurality of viewpoints, and the value of each is always “relative” and “subjective” to the individual; meaning everybody is right in believing whatever they want to believe) be ended.  Some ideas are plain wrong- and although it is true that reasonable people can disagree, reasonable people can also identify destructive and anti-social ideas worth rejecting entirely.

If there is an unpopular war, end it.  If there is a criminal president, charge him.  If there is no health care, provide it.  If there are regressive taxes, change them.  If there are struggling families (and family farms) help them.  There seems little need to give lip service to those who profess to value things violently opposed to the ends of a fair, free, and democratic society.  We would do well to ourselves, and our children, to remember these things as we navigate the complicated world that surrounds us.

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