Why I’m Contributing to Edwards On Friday 18th

UPDATE: Your contributions should be made at the John Edwards campaign website, which you can get to by clicking the picture below.

On Monday, a DailyKOS diarist suggested the idea of a massive one-day grassroots contribution effort for the Edwards campaign.  

This idea has been greeted enthusiastically by Edwards supporters, but the usual cranky sort of partisans who just don’t like to see enthusiasm for anyone else’s favorite candidate, couldn’t resist the urge to scoff. One of them wrote:

Edwards supporters are looking more and more like Ron Paul supporters every day.  “No, really!  Our guy can win!  You just wait til everyone sees!!!”

My reply:

Edwards is a mainstream candidate who has always had a chance (albeit no one ever thought it would be easy) of capturing the nomination. Paul is a fringe candidate who has never, ever, had a chance of capturing the nomination.

But there is more to this discussion than who becomes the nominee. Most of us supporters are very realistic – and openly so – about the chances that an underdog candidate has to capture this nomination.  But the Primary System is not winner-take-all; Edwards doesn’t have to come in first in a state to win delegates. The more delegates he brings to the convention floor, the more it will serve to amplify his campaign’s message.  To the degree that one believes it is an important message, there is nothing unrealistic about continuing to support his campaign.

Boo-Frickin’-Hoo: H.304 fanclub goes pissy

When you have a blog like this that a lot of people read, I’ve found you just never know what people are going to react to. Case in point my diary from yesterday expressing my…displeasure…with the latest bill in the Vermont legislature which is designed to move us toward a single-payer health care system. While I, once again, agree with the goal, I take issue with the content of the bill – and in particular the piss-poor communication strategy designed to promote it – a strategy seemingly designed to pick needless fights and utterly confuse potential supporters.

Well, I didn’t know the half of it. Putting aside for a moment its supporters who apparently have only just discovered GMD and decided to make their point by name-calling (yeah, cuz THAT works SO well), I get an official email from Vermont Health Care For All which takes us to a whole new level of debate (I don’t know who sent it. I doubt it was Richter. Last time I got email from this address, I believe it was Terry Doran, but I can’t say for sure).

Bear in mind, this is an email sent to someone who has for many years supported the cause of single-payer healthcare – even inviting their comments during the Catamount discussions. You might think, then, that the tone might be persuasive. That they might feel the need to make their case as to why I should become a supporter of the bill, despite my frustrated misgivings.

HOO-boy, would you be wrong about that. The email I received is below the fold. It consisted of my original diary interspersed with the sender’s responses, so I’ve tried to replicate that format in the blog’s CMS format.

Be advised: if political catfights make you queasy, skip this diary…

Championed by Deb Richter and Con Hogan, the bill is sponsored by a Republican and two Democrats, but no Progressives.

Not true: Some of the bill’s strongest supporters are Progressives.  

A weird point of contention. I didn’t argue that Progressives didn’t support it. In fact in the next sentence I stated they did (“On the other hand, it is quite the topic of organization at the Progs’ official site, including on the Prog Blog. “). I was wondering why none of them sponsored it. I thought this was odd.

What it probably is, is yet another sign that this bill was developed in a slap-dash way. I suspect every single member of the Prog caucus would’ve signed on, along with quite a few other Dems. It would’ve been helpful to spend the extra day to get their names on it.

The bill itself has gotten as much attention for its organizing slogan

as its content (“Take Back Vermont Healthcare,” which has only served to piss people off by evoking “Take Back Vermont” – Richter has since announced a change in its advertising gimmick – and hopefully a reconsideration of

career choice for whatever communications person thought such a name was a good idea).

Some of us – not all – still think it’s a good name because 1. It

rehabilitates a perfectly good concept trashed by the reactionary right wing during the civil unions debate and 2. it perfectly captures what we wish done. The fact that Progressive websites or blogs are in a tizzy over this says more about them and their focus and goals than about us.  

Got that? If you think, as Julie said, that “Fags Go Home Healthcare” is offensive, it’s just your problem, as a stuck-up blogger. Sheesh. Get over it. What, are you a fag or something?

Even the advocacy website set up for the bill  makes it painfully hard to find out anything at all (not a strategy that inspires confidence, which adds to the general sense of chaos around the “grasstops” effort)

Well, perhaps. It’s how you see it.  

It’s your website, folks. What is it you want people to see? Come on!

304 would set up the State of Vermont to become the functional single insurance payer for Hospital care. The idea is that, once implemented, regular premiums will come down 40%, paperwork will be dramatically streamlined and reduced, which could bring down rates even further, and it ultimately becomes a cheaper and more cost-efficient way for the State to meet its Medicare and Medicaid matching burdens. In fact, the bill depends on Vermont being able to pool its Medicare and Medicaid federal monies to cover the system.

Many no’s in the above. Not an insurance payer at all. A payer of health care services. This is a pretty big difference. Administrative paperwork savings don’t bring down insurance rates. The bill has provision to raise the money in case Medicare and Medicaid waivers are not obtained. Under the Bush administration there’s little likelihood they could be.

Now THIS was what we call a “teachable moment.” From my perspective, in this case anyway, it strikes me as a distinction without a difference, at least from a user-end perspective. But no explanation was forthcoming. Just another statement I’m expected to take as fact without explanation.

And the result is that everybody can go to the ER and be paid for.

This is the Hospital Association line of defense.

Uhhhh… yeah, so?

But if that were so why aren’t they going now?

They ARE going now! ERs are being used as primary care by the uninsured in lieu of preventative care. I thought this was a given in this debate.

Their care would be absorbed by a cost shift.

Yes – I get that that’s the argument. I’m just not seeing any particulars beyond a big fat “trust us.”

Sure, some increase might occur under H.304, but that’s a technical problem, not a policy problem.  

Newsflash: That’s a reality problem. That makes it a political problem. And that means,, if you’re serious about passing a bill, you need to address it, otherwise don’t bother – it’s all an exercise in futility.

A 40% premium decrease is not only a dangerously murky figure, the idea that premiums would drop just because it’s “the law” is deceptively simplistic. There is no mechanism by which they have to drop that much under those circumstances.

Why murky? All the numbers are not Richter’s or Hogan’s. They are the JFO’s. And yes there is a mechanism. Talk to BISHCA.  

Murky because the “Take Back Vermont HC” website simplistically suggests that the law will mandate a commensurate 40% drop in insurance premiums, rather than shift the equation by which insurance companies make their case for rates before regulators. The argument may be made that they should drop – and they may or may not. Suggesting that the law states unequivocally that they will is deceptive.

Also painfully murky is the $115 million figure thrown out as the amount of administrative overhead that will be reduced. Maybe, maybe not. There

are not $115 million worth of medical, budgetary line-items cleanly segregated under the “waste and abuse” column. This is not unlike the rhetoric used by Republicans to attack social programs – rhetoric that creates a self-servingly simplistic picture that – among other things – completely ignores the quantum effects of implementing radical change.

Again, figures are JFO’s. No one has said there is $115 million in administrative savings. The figure is $66 million and of course it is not set in stone.  

“Of course” indeed. My point is that the website suggests it is.

I used to be the admin for Planned Parenthhood of Northern New England’s practice management system. These arguments that there is a lot of needless bureaucracy tied up in the delivery of services due to multiple payers is true – but when advocates try to give that figure a specific monetary value, they’re making huge inferences that amount to leaps of faith – and such leaps do not help their credibility.

There’s also the Hospital Association’s argument: that this will simply further encourage people to use Hospital ERs as the medical care of first resort, rather than seeking preventative care. The proponents response is basically “no they won’t”

.

No it is not basically that. See above.  

The “see above” referred to was a link to the very web page I’d referenced that drew me to the conclusion in the first place. Oh well.

Finally, there’s the issue of paying for it. The website offers this on their faq:

4. How will we pay for H.304?

a. We have some numbers derived from work by the Joint Fiscal Office.

b. One example would be a 5.5% payroll tax plus a $200 fee for each Vermonter under age 65.

c. The Legislative committees that deal with revenue can figure it out.

a: Well, that’s nice.

b: Great. More regressive taxes.

c: Punt.

You missed the qualifying” one example”.

Sure didn’t. Just wasn’t impressed. How about an example that actually demonstrates you take these issues of funding and fairness seriously? Honestly, you’re gonna take a me to task because what you wrote is inadequate? Bizarre!

There are other examples using a surcharge on paid Vt. income tax (progressive), sales tax increase (not), etc.

Great!

How about putting those in the website?

Dare we say we’re doing our best, and spending time quarreling with you over this does seem rather stupid.

So why are you quarrelling with me, then?

Your characterization of the bill and

us is nonsense.

Seemed “rather stupid” for just a moment, I guess.

You can always read the bill yourself, check out

sources, and tell your readers about it.  

I believe that’s exactly what I did.

Premiums will come down x amount because we say they will. X amount will be saved from paperwork because we said so. People wont lean on ERs for primary care because they just won’t. It’ll get paid for because

ways and means will fix it, no problem.

And perhaps most extreme of all, the federal government will let us do whatever we want with medicare and medicaid money because they will.

Added together, the rhetoric underplays so dramatically the fundamental changes and the fiscal impacts of what it would wreak as to seem almost deceptive, and it does so in a kind of patrician, leave-it-to-the-experts style that only feeds the worst stereotypes about liberals.

It may be that many proponents don’t understand what’s in the bill. It may be that proponents have been talking to the same old people (e.g.each other) about health care for so long, they no longer feel the need to make a comprehensive case for single-payer, assuming everyone is on their side. It may be that they’ve decided some “radical creep” is called for by sneaking up on people with a dramatic change in the system to show them, despite themselves, that its not so bad once they’re steeped in it.

Whatever the reason(s), proponents seem to have fallen back on vague sleight-of-hand with a touch of snake oil to bypass what really needs to happen to create such fundamental change.

What needs to happen is exactly what happened with the Great Society laws, and even the New Deal; a broadly, clearly, honestly stated commitment to fundamental change.

So far, that consensus is not in play around this bill. I have some

sympathy, as to make such a case, you need someone in a leadership position to stand up and advocate aggressively. Rep. McFaun is trying to play that role, but his platform isn’t broad enough.

Nor is he getting the right kind of support from advocates who have him speaking at the same forums to the same people who are always at these things. The use of “Take Back Vermont” suggests that advocates have some intellectual understanding that they need to look beyond this crowd, but the crude offensive sloganeering demonstrates either how little they

bothered to really consider the best way to do that, or how ill-equipped they are to understand those people.

In any event, the half-hearted “just do it” quality of the bill and the support for it aren’t doing the cause a lot of favors.

Don’t how to respond to such a load of misrepresentation. Only to say that this is exactly how Canada’s system started, by financing hospital care province by province. It’s not as hare-brained as you seem to think. You’re largely wrong or misinformed or determined to misrepresent the details.  

Yeah, that’s it. I’m determined.

Whatever.

Your distress seems to be about the name TakeBackVermontHealthcare, about the website, about the organization, about what you assume are our attitudes, about our honesty, etc.

That covers a lot of it. I’m also distressed about a bill that will never ever pass because of how its written, packaged and presented. I’m very much in the category of people who need a single-payer system, so I don’t like to see time wasted like this.

If you are so troubled, why is it you don’t form a group to work against H.304 or form one to work for a single-payer bill if you can get a legislator to propose one.

Why do you assume I haven’t done work for nonprofits that promote single payer? Oh that’s right, because I’m not cheerleading your bill, your website, and your communications strategy!

Yessir, that’s pretty hard proof.

Attacking people trying to accomplish what they see as the right thing in health care reform right now is self-indulgent and pointless.

Yeh, I know. “Shut up and fall in line.” I get that a lot.

Doesn’t it just suck how people don’t respond well to that?

If you have useful ideas we will listen to them either in person or by email. We need useful ideas, not carping.

What you “need” is to learn how to persuade.

Because you really, really, really suck at it.

Just for kicks, here’s the rest of the email, which consisted only of the rest of my original diary:

….but… wanna hear the punchline?

I’m still glad to see it.

The bill will fail. Miserably, and for a variety of reasons. The whole thing is a leap of faith on many, many levels.

But it’s simple existence does three things:

One, it furthers the single-payer argument in a more concrete way than we’ve yet seen.

Two, it sets the bar for real health care reform closer to where it should be, and hopefully will inform whatever new bill actually emerges from the legislature this year.

Three, it puts a spotlight on the need for flexibility on federal

money and points out the real necessity for federal support to move towards single-payer, or something really resembling single-payer.

These are all good things. Necessary and important things. If I were a legislator, I couldn’t in good conscience vote for it in this form, but that same conscience would demand I not abandon it – rather that I get involved and really take it on to make sure I was part of the solution. I hope other legislators and advocates see it that way.

Richter and Hogan are doing a service by promoting this. Representatives McFaun, Obuchowski and Ojibway may not be doing themselves any favors among their peers putting forward such a flawed bill, but this conversation is in desperate need of a push to the next step, and this is one way to do that.

It could be argued that a screwed-up bill is worse than no bill, as it delegitimizes the overall approach, but don’t think so. Single-payer is the direction the argument is headed, and there’s no changing that .

A Question for y’all: Recession and the Environment

Time to get a non-Presidential related discussion going here.

As one cannot go five minutes now without hearing or reading about how the U.S. economy is going in the pooper, it’s put a question on my mind that I’d like to pose to you all, regardless of your political persuasion.

We all know part of what happens in a recession is that people consume less. In a nation where overconsumption is de facto part and parcel of the national fabric, does a recession hurt or help the environment? Without a doubt, less consumption means less resources are being used, but I’m sure there’s other things I’m missing here. I’m sure it’s not really a yes or no type of answer. Your thoughts?

Healthcare Semi-Solutions

Witness the odd creature that is H.304, the newest bill intended to make movements towards single-payer health care, and its very existence brings up many interesting questions and points.

First of all, the simple fact that the House still has a Health Care committee post-Catamount is a great thing, in that it invites continued action and creative thinking on this issue. H.304 is a perfect example. But the atmosphere around this bill is especially interesting. Championed by Deb Richter and Con Hogan, the bill is sponsored by a Republican and two Democrats, but no Progressives. On the other hand, it is quite the topic of organization at the Progs’ official site, including on the Prog Blog.

The bill itself has gotten as much attention for its organizing slogan as its content (“Take Back Vermont Healthcare,” which has only served to piss people off by evoking “Take Back Vermont”  – Richter has since announced a change in its advertising gimmick – and hopefully a reconsideration of career choice for whatever communications person thought such a name was a good idea).

Although large crowds have come to a couple rallies, the outreach has seemed fairly limited in scope – almost perfunctory at times. The result is a lot of confusion about the issue, the bill and its relative merits. In fact, I’ve had a hard time finding a proponent who can tell me what the bill actually does. Even the advocacy website set up for the bill makes it painfully hard to find out anything at all (not a strategy that inspires confidence, which adds to the general sense of chaos around the “grasstops” effort)

An attempt to get an idea what’s going on after the fold…

304 would set up the State of Vermont to become the functional single insurance payer for Hospital care. The idea is that, once implemented, regular premiums will come down 40%, paperwork will be dramatically streamlined and reduced, which could bring down rates even further, and it ultimately becomes a cheaper and more cost-efficient way for the State to meet its Medicare and Medicaid matching burdens. In fact, the bill depends on Vermont being able to pool its Medicare and Medicaid federal monies to cover the system.

And the result is that everybody can go to the ER and be paid for.

I think the reason you dont see Progressive and Liberal Democrats lining up to get behind this bill is that it would seem to make so many assumptions as to be a virtual leap of faith. A 40% premium decrease is not only a dangerously murky figure, the idea that premiums would drop just because it’s “the law” is deceptively simplistic. There is no mechanism by which they have to drop that much under those circumstances.

Also painfully murky is the $115 million figure thrown out as the amount of administrative overhead that will be reduced. Maybe, maybe not. There are not $115 million worth of medical, budgetary line-items cleanly segregated under the “waste and abuse” column. This is not unlike the rhetoric used by Republicans to attack social programs – rhetoric that creates a self-servingly simplistic picture that – among other things – completely ignores the quantum effects of implementing radical change.

There’s also the Hospital Association’s argument: that this will simply further encourage people to use Hospital ERs as the medical care of first resort, rather than seeking preventative care. The proponents response is basically “no they won’t”.

As an underinsured person who lives paycheck to paycheck and supports a family, let me just say: yes we will.

Finally, there’s the issue of paying for it. The website offers this on their faq:

4. How will we pay for H.304?

a. We have some numbers derived from work by the Joint Fiscal Office.

b. One example would be a 5.5% payroll tax plus a $200 fee for each Vermonter under age 65.

c. The Legislative committees that deal with revenue can figure it out.

a: Well, that’s nice.

b: Great. More regressive taxes.

c: Punt.

Although the website is pretty, in terms of content, in a lot of ways the website seems to have had as much thought put into it as the unfortunate slogan.

In fact, the message from the site and the rally posters seems to be: Its about single payer. You are in favor of single payer, right? Then forget the details, just show up and support this thing.

The slap-dash, lickety-splittery of this bill and the push for it, in my opinion, do a disservice to the cause and are a bit patronizing to its supporters. As a supporter of single-payer, I have to say that the common theme behind the crude sloganeering, the half-baked bill and the condescendingly incomplete advocacy seems to be that organizers think I’m stupid.

Premiums will come down x amount because we say they will.  X amount will be saved from paperwork because we said so. People wont lean on ERs for primary care because they just won’t. It’ll get paid for because ways and means will fix it, no problem.

And perhaps most extreme of all, the federal government will let us do whatever we want with medicare and medicaid money because they will.

Added together, the rhetoric underplays so dramatically the fundamental changes and the fiscal impacts of what it would wreak as to seem almost deceptive, and it does so in a kind of patrician, leave-it-to-the-experts style that only feeds the worst stereotypes about liberals.

It may be that many proponents don’t understand what’s in the bill. It may be that proponents have been talking to the same old people (e.g.each other) about health care for so long, they no longer feel the need to make a comprehensive case for single-payer, assuming everyone is on their side. It may be that they’ve decided some “radical creep” is called for by sneaking up on people with a dramatic change in the system to show them, despite themselves, that its not so bad once they’re steeped in it.

Whatever the reason(s), proponents seem to have fallen back on vague sleight-of-hand with a touch of snake oil to bypass what really needs to happen to create such fundamental change.

What needs to happen is exactly what happened with the Great Society laws, and even the New Deal; a broadly, clearly, honestly stated commitment to fundamental change. An understanding that its not going to be easy or cheap, so we must be committed to make it happen, come what may.

So far, that consensus is not in play around this bill. I have some sympathy, as to make such a case, you need someone in a leadership position to stand up and advocate aggressively. Rep. McFaun is trying to play that role, but his platform isn’t broad enough.

Nor is he getting the right kind of support from advocates who have him speaking at the same forums to the same people who are always at these things. The use of “Take Back Vermont” suggests that advocates have some intellectual understanding that they need to look beyond this crowd, but the crude offensive sloganeering demonstrates either how little they bothered to really consider the best way to do that, or how ill-equipped they are to understand those people.

In any event, the half-hearted “just do it” quality of the bill and the support for it aren’t doing the cause a lot of favors.

…but… wanna hear the punchline?

I’m still glad to see it.

The bill will fail. Miserably, and for a variety of reasons. The whole thing is a leap of faith on many, many levels.

But it’s simple existence does three things:

One, it furthers the single-payer argument in a more concrete way than we’ve yet seen.

Two, it sets the bar for real health care reform closer to where it should be, and hopefully will inform whatever new bill actually emerges from the legislature this year.

Three, it puts a spotlight on the need for flexibility on federal money and points out the real necessity for federal support to move towards single-payer, or something really resembling single-payer.

These are all good things. Necessary and important things. If I were a legislator, I couldn’t in good conscience vote for it in this form, but that same conscience would demand I not abandon it – rather that I get involved and really take it on to make sure I was part of the solution. I hope other legislators and advocates see it that way.

Richter and Hogan are doing a service by promoting this. Representatives McFaun, Obuchowski and Ojibway may not be doing themselves any favors among their peers putting forward such a flawed bill, but this conversation is in desperate need of a push to the next step, and this is one way to do that.

It could be argued that a screwed-up bill is worse than no bill, as it delegitimizes the overall approach, but don’t think so. Single-payer is the direction the argument is headed, and there’s no changing that

I’m positively voting for John Edwards

(Good stuff in here. – promoted by JulieWaters)

Crossposted on MyDD on Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 03:05:11 PM EST

In a diary up today, dataguy has a poll asking who supporters of John Edwards will turn to, given dataguy’s observation that

For whatever reason, he is losing ground.  He will not win SC.  If he does not win the state of his birth, where can he win?

I believe that he will continue through SuperDuper Tuesday.  He will be out at that point if he wins no states.  I see no prospects for him to win anything, so I do not see him continuing.

This race should have already taught us something about premature conclusions. Months ago, many people on the blogs had concluded that McCain was toast. Days ago, many people on the blogs had concluded that Clinton was toast.

I’m not unrealistic about the chances of an underdog candidate to capture this nomination. However, our Primary system is not winner-take-all.  Under Democratic Party rules, a candidate does not have to come in first in a state in order to win delegates, so the answer to dataguy’s question “Where can Edwards win?” is Anywhere people vote for him, he can win delegates.

Obama and Clinton are both outstanding, topnotch candidates, but Edwards remains my favorite in this race. The themes Edwards is focusing on in his campaign sound so much like those of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt – ending poverty, supporting labor unions, making sure government works as an agent of and for the public, not as an agent of and for big monied interests – that Edwards is serving to communicate, in a powerful way, the fundamental principles that do or should distinguish the Democratic Party from the Republican Party.  The better that distinction is defined, the more likely that people will actually have a good reason in mind to go vote Democratic, instead of picking a candidate this November based on superficial media narratives or a mental coin toss.

It is not just the (often slanted) punditocracy – but regular, sincere folks, as well – who in recent years have asked the question “What does the Democratic Party stand for?”  Edwards is saying, loudly and clearly,

                   THIS IS WHAT WE STAND FOR!

Like Franklin and Eleanor, Edwards expresses the need for progressive legislation in a way that stresses that such basic necessities as good healthcare and a good education and a decent place to live and work are inherent rights – and that it is a duty of government to work proactively in support of these inherit rights.  And it is a moral imperative of the Democratic Party to see to it that government does its duty.

These themes are just as salient now as they were in Franklin and Eleanor’s time – and it’s critical that they continue to be heard from mainstream Democratic candidates.

Edwards’s presence in this presidential campaign, and the size of the pool of delegates he brings to the convention floor, serve to amplify these themes.

Edwards will get my vote, and my continued support.

Election Coverage Abroad

I was blown away last night watching the news how much of the world is tuned into our presidential election.  I thought they were showing pictures of a rally in the US.  Turns out it was crowd of Europeans holding Obama signs!

Our election is easily getting as much attention abroad as it is here in the United States.  The message of change has resonated well beyond our borders.  Fighting two wars, and facing the makings of a recession, the world is watching us.  Just like we watched Europe when the Iron Curtain fell.

The United States has been a major player in the world for a great many years.  It has helped shape the course of world history several times.  Everyone watches and wonders, is the worlds most powerful nation on a downhill slide?  If nothing else they want to see what lies in the future.  Will it be a continuation of the Bush years, or a return to some sense of normalcy?

This is Americas chance to shine.  To show the rest of the world that our political system may not be perfect, but it works.  Or at least that their are Americans trying to make it work.  Our allies worry and rightfully so, if the U.S. sinks, who and what will it take down with it?

Many questions that will only be answered by the outcome of our next presidential election…….

All ye who support Edwards, abandon hope: a concern troll diary

All ye who support Edwards, abandon hope!  Your candidate is doomed, I tell you, doomed!

You should immediately shift your support to [ Obama / Clinton ], otherwise [ Clinton / Obama ] will get the nomination and will cause us to lose to [ Huckabee / Romney / McCain / the Pilsbury Dough Boy / Satan ].  

If you fail to shift your support from Edwards to [ Obama / Clinton ], you are personally responsible for the nomination of  [ Clinton / Obama ].  You can not hope to win, so you must change your allegiance in order to prevent the obvious problems a campaign by [ a black man / someone named Clinton ] will face come November.  

It is now your responsibility to join the side of [ Obama / Clinton ].  For it is spoken, with less than 1% of elected Delegates now decided, that the election will come down to just two people and only one can defeat [ Fred Thompson / Dr. Octopus / the Incredible Hulk / Ron Paul ] come November!  

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

Interesting Clinton-Obama discussion

Most people around here are not that supportive of Obama, and even less supportive of Clinton, but it looks like that's the choice we're faced with.

I'm not happy with the choice, but if we have any contest at all in Vermont by Town Meeting Day, that's my prediction of what it will be. Therefore, maybe we should start thinking not just about our ideal candidate, but about our actual choice.

Here's a good diavlog between Joshua Cohen and Glenn Loury on this very question: should people who support progressive change support Clinton or Obama?

I'm not going to even try telling you the answer, or what I think the answer is, yet. They do get into some of the important questions, though, including whether there are any policy differences between the two, who has the better chance of winning, and what will happen if each of them gets elected. I do encourage you to watch, listen, and think about it, though. 

Talk the talk and …

bomb the crap outa’ them!

Side by side headlines in today’s (01/11/08) Times Argus: “Bush outlines ideas for Middle East peace” and “Massive U.S. airstrikes hit insurgents in Iraq”. That juxtaposition illustrates our federal government’s approach to foreign affairs so well.

As a nation our mouth pieces talk about peace and democracy and fairness, but the actions in our names are the direct opposite … violent and imperialistic and arbitrary.

Right now bush is in Palestine/Israel talking like he wants a fair shake with all involved, but at the same time he encourages a regional war against the Gaza Strip and their freely elected Hamas government.

Hamas is the only group to actually enforce a cease fire of it’s members regarding Israel, and they are the only Palestinian group with a proven track record of providing basic services such as food distribution, medical care and education to the Palestinian people. But Hamas refuses to be U.S./Israel sock puppets so they are evil.

(Interesting side note: Hamas was born in part out of Israeli (non)intelligence efforts to combat Arafat and his Al Fatah organization, with the support of the Israeli government.)

Of course Abbas and his Al Fatah party are the ones bush finds common ground with: Al Fatah has proven itself as an organization to be corrupt and pliable to monetary and militarization bribery.

Now … where are the broad, idealistic and much needed changes being suggested?

Because I don’t care if it’s coming from Dems or Reps or pretend indies … I’m sick of talking the talk and then bombing the crap outa’ them.