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Global Warming

The Right Kind of Challenge for the Right Kind of Change

by: mataliandy

Fri Apr 16, 2010 at 19:10:51 PM EDT

In early 2007, a group of entrepreneurial souls in the Tunbridge area decided to try something different. They knew people could save money and energy, and reduce CO2 in the atmosphere by using solar energy to replace (or at least preheat) their conventional domestic hot water.

So, they devised a challenge [PDF file]: get 50 families to install solar hot water. It was a big challenge. It required helping people leap some pretty big hurdles - cost being one of the biggest.

They worked with banks to arrange for "energy efficient loans" with a reduced interest rate, they gathered information on federal and state rebate programs, and then then they set to work.

They set up an educational event (or two, or three) to teach people about the economic reasons to go solar: for example, you'd save $500/yr on a $700 propane bill for heating water for a family of 4. Once the cost of the system - after rebates - had been paid for by savings, then the system would be providing all that hot water for free ... for decades. The payback period, depending on your site, can be as little as 5 years, but is almost always less than 7 years. This means a greater than 10% return on your investment. When was the last time your savings account, or even your 401k did that?.

Anyway, it was a great success, and now, another challenge is set to launch NEXT SATURDAY, April 24 in the Upper Valley. If you live in the area or want to learn more (perhaps start one in your area?), it's going to be worth the trip.

This is the kind of challenge Vermont needs in order to create the real changes that will help all Vermonters - bringing green jobs, saving scarce money, and helping keep the air clean for our children.

Details below the fold...

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The motivations behind global warming denialism

by: JDRyan

Wed Dec 30, 2009 at 12:41:11 PM EST

(crossposted at five before chaos)

… have always been, I believe, rooted in capitalism and economic libertarianism. Basically, if anthropogenic global warming proponents are correct (as I believe they are), it basically means that we can’t just “do what we want” regardless of the consequences. One of those right wing definitions of freedom seems to be mind-numbingly simple , i.e. freedom is doing (or buying or destroying, but certainly not having sex with) what you want, regardless of the consequences. It certainly doesn’t take into consideration other people’s freedoms to be free from pollution, dirty water or having the public commons completely corporatized and exploited.

And of course, apologists for this worldview inevitably point to “market based” solutions and the convoluted illogic that regulations are hampering environmental progress, as though if there were no MPG standards, and they could build a car that gets 2 MPG, somehow people will miraculously all start buying hybrids. It’s really as crazy as what the Rapture-Ready™ crowd believes, but it’s more harmful, as it truly affects every single thing on the planet.

This free-market fundamentalism consistently fails to address a rather salient point… how do you fix things, when consumers, given a choice between something environmentally friendly or not, healthy or not, toxic or not, repeatedly choose the detrimental option? Nobody seem to be able to give me a decent answer on that, instead blathering on about “individual choice” and “it’s not my fault if people make bad choices”, or when all else fails, “who are you to decide what’s right?”, as though there are really upsides to lead paint or BPH that are somehow escaping me. If all else fails, some vague reference to the Soviet Union and waiting hours on line for a roll of toilet paper are thrown in for good measure.

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VZW on Climate change

by: Jack McCullough

Fri Sep 04, 2009 at 08:12:48 AM EDT

If you're not already a regular reader of Vermont Newsguy, which we've had in our blogroll for some time now,  you should hop over and read today's post on how Verizon Wireless is cozying up to the climate change deniers.

You may have read about it on Facebook, but VNG has the whole story right here, along with some pointed, and very well-founded, criticism of news bias over at WCAX.

 Good work,, Jon!

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Live Blogging James Hansen: Climate Challenge

by: mataliandy

Fri Apr 03, 2009 at 00:15:19 AM EDT

( - promoted by odum)

Cross-posted from DailyKos. I wrote this live, but had a long drive before to get more internet access.

I'm at Dartmouth College, Cook Auditorium, where James Hansen and Jason Grumet are speaking tonight on the topic of Climate Challenge: Implications for Energy and Policy and Intergenerational Justice.

I'll be live blogging, updating the diary body every couple of minutes with more text. I won't be able to comment until it's over, assuming my battery lasts.

There's a big disclaimer at the bottom of the presentation screen: "Any statements relating to policy are personal opinion."

Note: I can't type as fast as people can speak, so everything will be paraphrased.

Presentation below the fold...

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All the news reports say...

by: mataliandy

Tue Sep 16, 2008 at 01:34:02 AM EDT

All the news reports say that Hurricane Ike wasn't so bad after all. It headed a bit north and east, so it didn't make a direct hit on Galveston and Houston, as originally feared. So, luckily, nothing bad happened. Please move along now.  Did we mention Lipstick?

Below the fold are a few videos from one town. One former town. Chrystal Beach, TX, on the northern end of the Bolivar Peninsula.

There's a 2000ft no-fly zone, killing the news cycle from the air. Luckily, we still have the Coast Guard and small cameras. The next time, I'm sure they'll have their cameras confiscated upon landing.

I don't have a lot to say, because the videos really do say it all. Another community drowned. Another hurricane that may provide a clue as to what global warming has in store for us.  Another bungled aftermath by the republicans whose goal seems to be "Government that Does Less and Fails More."

cross posted from here

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Weather 2.0 - Turn Around, Don't Drown!

by: mataliandy

Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 14:10:36 PM EDT

For those in New York, Vermont, and New Hampshire, repeat these words: "Turn Around, Don't Drown."

Make them automatic, because as more roads flood and wash out from the additional 1 - 2" of rain expected to fall today, your life is in danger. A family in NH lost their 7 year old daughter when their car was caught in a flash flood yesterday.

Flash floods are expected in the Adirondacks, Northern Vermont and New Hampshire.

A flash flood is DIFFERENT from ordinary flooding. It's not the same thing as your basement filling with a few inches of water. Instead, rain falling upstream makes its way downstream all at once, causing sudden and dramatic rises in the water level. This is not a slow rise over the course of hours, but a rise of feet in the course of seconds or minutes.

If you see water flowing across the road from a river, brook, or stream, it could be deadly. Turn Around, Don't Drown.

There is also a mud slide warning.

For those who don't live in these states, join me after the fold for a discussion of what I now call "Weather 2.0," some of its implications, and something I want to try to do about it.

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Two eco items from the Rutland Herald

by: JulieWaters

Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 05:58:12 AM EST

First, as though we didn't already have plenty of evidence to support this Study: Temps affect waters:

A state study of the watersheds of the West, Williams and Saxtons rivers in the southeastern corner of the state shows the biggest environmental problem appears to be increased temperatures, a planner with the Agency of Natural Resources said.

Marie Levesque Caduto, a watershed coordinator with the agency, said Friday the study is one of 17 being conducted on the different watersheds in the state.

The article doesn't go into real detail, but refers to the importance of cool temperatures to the creatures living inside the rivers, not just the fish, but the creatures the fish eat as well.

The article itself doesn't necessarily attribute this to global warming, but it's obvious that this is a contributing factor, along with other factors, noting that:

it was not just the large ponds or lakes behind the flood control dams, which act as giant heat sinks, but that all along the rivers people are cutting trees and shrubs along riverbanks, eliminating its shade which is important not just to fish, but the tiny invertebrates they eat.
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Global Warming and the compartmentalized mind of Jim Douglas

by: JDRyan

Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 10:47:01 AM EST

As climate change continues to gather more steam as an issue both in Vermont and abroad, I'm continually and increasingly perplexed as to what neurons are misfiring in Whinin' Jim Douglas' brain cavity.

First, a bold and comprehensive energy bill gets shot down by Douglas so he can keep his VT Yankee buddies from paying their fair share of taxes. In Douglas' perpetual taxpayer funded campaign stops "Set The Agenda Tour", Jimbo says that he's not really hearing much about global warming. It's all about that that nasty, overtaxed, harsh business climate that Douglas seems intent on promoting Vermont with (the only "climate" he seems to be interested in). Then, the guv's Commission on Climate Change issued a report detailing the severity of the problem, seemingly contradicting the short shrift the guv' seems to be giving it. 

 

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Now THAT'S more like it!!! (SNOW BLOGGING)

by: Caoimhin Laochdha

Tue Dec 18, 2007 at 04:00:00 AM EST

I like snow. 

For the past decade, my neighborhood has been snow deprived, relatively speaking, to the first nine+ decades of the 20th century.

This past weekend was closer to what I expect Vermont to be in the winter.

Take a wintery look after the jump.

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No New Coal

by: Jack McCullough

Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 15:23:30 PM EDT

As you probably know, Vermont is examining its energy future. as you follow this discussion you might want to hop on over to Welcome Campground and take a look at this post about what role coal should play in the picture:

The Global Warming movement has now focused in on the reduction of COAL fired power plants. Preceding the lecture by Hansen, there was a rally outside called No New Coal which was organized by David Merrill and friends to bring awareness to possible coal developments in Montana and the states in general and why they are a TERRIBLE idea that don't benefit the country.
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Watching the World Burn

by: mataliandy

Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 10:34:33 AM EDT

In the California wildfire coverage, I came across a federal site with satellite images of fires throughout the world. I created a time-lapse movie of the images beginning january 1, 2007 and ending with the most recent image, from October 17. Images are created once every 10 days, and are a compilation of the daily images from that 10-day period. The current CA fires won't show up until the 28th.

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Vermont GOP Promoting Corporate Global Warming Denyer, Embracing 21st Century Neo-Trogladytery

by: odum

Tue Oct 23, 2007 at 19:33:21 PM EDT

By all accounts (except for the crude one in the Rutland Herald, written in such a way as to make one wonder if the reporter was even present), the recent McKibben-McLaughry debate on global warming was a one-sided bloodbath, with reports that McKibben not only casually countered every phony, long-obsolete canard offered by McLaughry, he actually had McLaughry beginning to accept reality and discussing solutions.

Well, apparently it didn't take, as the "Ethan Allen Institute" (such as it is) is now sponsoring a Vermont appearence by Dr. Marlo Lewis, Jr. Hardly news, but it's interesting that the Vermont GOP is actively promoting this lecture on their website, lashing themselves haphazardly to the Exxon-Mobil funded Lewis, whose scientific credentials seem to consist of degrees in Government and Political Science, and a career in partisan hackery. Here are some choice comments from Mr Lewis:

26 April, 2006
The main incontrovertible effect of global warming to date is that it has made those severely cold regions slightly less lethal to people and other living things.
Source: www.cei.org/pdf/5288.pdf

1 February, 2007
"The asserted consensus that global warming is a planetary emergency and that all right-thinking people believe we need to limit our energy use has been exposed, once again, as unsubstantiated myth."
Source: Heartland Institute website 2007

It's continually outrageous that anyone continues to spout this nonsense, and Lewis wavers between outright denial and passing off climate change as a really swell thing for everybody. What's interesting at the local level is that the state GOP is gleefully associating themselves with this sort of rhetoric, when many of their elected politicians are wising up enough to realize what kind of poison such views are to their electability.

Global Warming denial is steadily moving into the realm of evolution-denial. It's flat-Earthism. The new issue for the casually engaged swing voter that defines a candidate as that political nowhere creature (at least in the purple-to-blue states); the Neo-Trogladyte. The Neo-Trog label sticks, and becomes a shorthand measure of a candidate's character to the marginally engaged, who so often turn close elections.

If Roper wants to continue to hang this sort of nonsense around his Party's neck in this state, more power to him.

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Jim Douglas thinks you're an idiot

by: odum

Wed Aug 08, 2007 at 08:56:57 AM EDT

(NOTE: If you've noticed diaries appearing and disappearing, it's because I'm seriously bungling the "draft" vs. "live" diary feature today... woops...)

Governor Douglas's administration has stated that they believe most of the now-defeated (by his hand) H.520 (the "global warming" bill) can be implemented through the executive branch - even the efficiency utility piece that was so controversial. Well lo and behold, the Public Service Board has reported back that, no, they have no such authority and would require legislative action (duh) to proceed. What's absolutely jaw-dropping is the statement from Commissioner of Public Service David O'Brien:

The administration was never against evaluating in broad terms how best to improve the efficient use of heating fuels by Vermonters, O'Brien said. Instead, his and Douglas' concern about the energy bill was the speed with which an entirely new program was being implemented, he said.

"We were hesitant and cautious … most of our real concern was how fast this was moving along," O'Brien said.

Oh - THAT was the problem? That's the story now? Puh-leeze!

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The Sierra Club vs. Fox (via Home Depot)

by: odum

Tue Jul 24, 2007 at 19:53:26 PM EDT

If you haven't seen the emails and postings, Sierra Club is targeting Fox "News" for their campaign of crude, scorched-earth style global warming denial (heh... pardon the expression... honestly, it didn't even occur to me until I read the diary preview..heh heh). To do so, they've identified a major Fox advertiser - Home Depot - for action. Here is the associated YouTube video: 

You can add your name to the petition here. What makes this story particularly timely for Vermonters? This (from the Times Argus):

It's not just a rumor any more. Home Depot has set it sights on central Vermont.

The company that bills itself as "the world's largest home improvement specialty retailer" is targeting a partially abandoned strip mall on the Barre-Montpelier.

It's possible they may be more receptive than usual to Vermonters, under the circumstances.

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Newsbits: Veto-override battle starts early, and checking in with the national Republicans

by: odum

Tue Jul 10, 2007 at 16:19:58 PM EDT

Despite the gloomy predictions, Democratic Legislative leaders are going into this veto override session swinging. Tomorrow at 9:30 at the statehouse, leadership will be hosting Ned Raynolds, Northeast Climate Policy Coordinator for the Union of Concerned Scientists who, according to Senator Shumlin's office, will "share new scientific findings from the Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment Report (which is being released regionally on the 11th).  Mr. Raynolds remarks will focus on the consequences for different sectors of the Vermont economy under two global warming emissions scenarios." The presentation will take place in the Cedar Creek Room, if you're interested.

With top McCain campaign advisors Terry Nelson and John Weaver (and now Deputy Campaign Manager Reed Galen and Political Director Rob Jesmer) joining the avalanche of staffers given the heave-ho of late, the former presumed frontrunner's operation is in freefall. No word on whether or not former Vermont GOP head Jim Barnett is among the casualties yet, but it's likely he won't last long regardless, given the fact that McCain has less money on hand than even dark-horse Republican candidate Ron Paul. Ouch.

Think the neocons are on their way out? Not if Rudy Guiliani has anything to say about it. Neoconservative patriarch Norman Podhoretz has been tapped as a foreign policy advisor by Rudy's campaign. To get a flavor of the guy, here's his recent op-ed entitled The Case for Bombing Iran: I hope and pray that President Bush will do it. Swell.

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The H.520 Plan

by: odum

Tue Jul 03, 2007 at 07:44:36 AM EDT

Let's look ahead to just how the H.520 fight could play out in the coming weeks. As I've said, the big mistake of the announcement was twofold; one, that it let many of the supporters feel left out in the cold scratching their heads (and greenvtster is mistaken, only in that leadership had up to that moment, very much been in coordination with the base on this), and two; that the timing was premature and gave the appearence of capitulation, and therefore - weakness (and you never want to show weakness at a time like this).

Still, it was a strategic move, and if you still doubt that - consider how this could now play out.

Leadership holds the veto vote and comes up short. They then do what they've suggested; vote to suspend the rules and modify the bill, putting off the funding schema until January. This bill - a new bill - passes with a simple majority.

Then we go through it again - the new bill goes back to the Governor's desk where he can sign it, veto it, or allow it to become law without his signature. WIthout the funding scheme, the pressure will be a lot greater than it was before -especially since his "unfunded mandate" and "bureaucracy" excuses are so thin, they're falling completely flat.

But let's say the Governor vetoes it again. The Dem leadership then has the option - even the responsibility - of calling another override session. When? Check your calendar, folks, we're talking September again, when we can have all hands on deck - and with a bill that, in theory, many of the opponents have indicated they'll support. With all its policy provisions intact. And the whole thing keeps the issue alive and active in the public debate leading up closer to the election season.

The problem is we've become conditioned to see every move of the leadership as a failure (and the anti-Dem crowd gleefully exploits that), and in this case - at least in the big picture - it's just too early to tell.

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Spinning the Two-Headed Bill

by: odum

Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 13:21:47 PM EDT

(Okay, I've acccepted this is more than a one diary issue). A long time ago there were two bills; a renewable energy bill and a building efficiency bill. Over a wild and wacky session, these bills joined together into what came to be known as the global warming bill. Advocates in each chamber joined together on the new hybrid bill, whose efficiency element was going to cost a little money. To fill this gap, there was first the fuels surcharge - which got (thankfully) dumped as being too regressive. After fits and starts, and in the 11th hour, came the new funding source; the legendary tax that primarily targeted Vermont Yankee.

So advocates moved forward, re-energized. What they didn't realize was that the old bill was gone, and what was in its place was more complicated. By appending the Yankee tax, they tapped into a surprisingly deep and wide resevoir of frustration and energy from the many on the left who have felt that VY has been given a sweetheart deal at the expense of Vermoners' environment and safety. As such, what had been a global warming bill to some was now a Vermont Yankee bill to others (and to some it was equally both).

Fast forward to the mistake in timing that was this week's decision to put the funding source back on the table (instead of holding that card until the veto session) in order to call Douglas's thin bluff at taking the issue seriously. The truth is that no matter when they would've pulled this card, the reaction on the left would have been similarly angry/frustrated/confused.

As a proponent of the global warming bill from early on, I've always looked at it AS a "global warming" bill, and have only just come to understand that many saw it otherwise. To those that saw it as a VY bill, this move is utter capitulation (and I'm not talking about the predatory Greens with their own anti-Dem agenda, such as Colby-boy), leaving those of us more firmly in the global warming camp wondering why people are talking as though the bill has been compromised. But with the narrative on the Dem leadership that's in full circulation; that they run away from controversy and cave upon meeting conflict, it's the capitulation argument that rings true for people.

A lot of lessons here. The big one is that Legislative Leadership should get out more and listen more (as should I, frankly). If they (we) had, they might have realized what they were really doing in plugging into the simmering, untended political lesion that is Vermont Yankee. It's clear that the VY tax couldn't be added as casually and modularly as one might add a sales tax increase, and that reality is just now dawning on those in leadership, as well as folks like me.

The other lesson is that Dem leadership better not give an inch on the global warming elements of the bill in the upcoming veto override session. I'm told both the House and Senate intend to hold firm this time. If they know what's good for them, they'll stick to that.

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Dem Leaders Drop Vermont Yankee Provisions of H.520 Prior to Climate Change Summit With Governor

by: odum

Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 13:32:56 PM EDT

The AP is reporting that Governor Douglas, Senator Shumlin, and House Natural Resources Chair Representative Robert Dostis are scheduled to meet tomorrow to discuss the global warming bill and the upcoming July veto-override session. Right on the heels of that announcement comes this from the Senate Prez-Pro-Tem's office:

The leadership of the Vermont House and Senate today announced that in light of Governor Douglas's veto of H.520 and his objection to the source of funding for the bill, Senator Shumlin and Speaker Symington will propose a suspension of the rules during the veto override session on July 11 to consider the same bill with the funding for an all fuels efficiency utility removed. Since the legislation vetoed by the governor stipulates that funding for the all fuels efficiency utility will be needed starting in 2009, this proposal would allow the legislature to consider how to fund the utility when it reconvenes in January.  In the meantime, the planning process for the utility, as well as other key provisions in H. 520, will be enacted

This announcement is one of two things; either another example of our legislative leadership running to move the goalposts and compromise before negotiations have even begun... OR... a(n attempt at a) savvy move to put the Governor on the defensive, and put the media focus of tomorrow's meeting squarely on the content of the bill and not the "dreaded" funding scheme vis-a-vis Vermont Yankee.

My money's on the latter, but its risky. Still, the papers and internet are replete with conservatives claiming that they'd be all for this bill with a different funding scheme. This calls their bluff, and leaves them nowhere to hide if they really are global warming deniers. It also puts the BS to the GOP nonsense line that the bill is all about "getting" Vermont Yankee.

Unfortunately, it also leaves the Dems nowhere to go in a July compromise, but to take actual policy content out of the bill. It's a good ploy, but the risk seems perhaps disproportionate and the timing dangerously off. We'll see. The content of the full press release is below the fold, along with a poll as to whether or not you think this is a wise strategic move...

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Fish, Polar Bears, the KKK and Other Stuff...

by: odum

Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 18:05:48 PM EDT

Jim Douglas hardly tries to conceal his snarky streak anymore. Freyne has a quote where Douglas lets his contempt for concerns about climate change shine through:

"I’ve said many times that Vermont has such a small imprint on the surface of the planet that we can do as much as possible and still not save a single polar bear or make any significant impact on global warming," said Vermont's Republican CEO.

"But China can have an impact because of the environmental challenges the environmental officials we’ve met with recognize and need to deal with. I would hope that Vermonters who have a serious interest in climate change would devote their time and energy to places like China

Great. Let China deal with it. So Douglas doesn't have to trouble his beautiful mind with it all.

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Shad 2, Vermont Yankee 1. A judge has again ruled that Vermont Yankee can't dump its water discharge into the Connecticut River (potentially harming fish) after receiving permission from the Douglas Administration to do so.

Citizen activists continue to work with Burlington police on the issue of racial profiling. It sounds like the police have been receptive so far after some incidents. If you don't think we need to be on the lookout for racism in oh-so-enlightened Vermont, here's some news for you: in 2006, there were two chapters of the Ku Klux Klan operating in the state, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center (hat tip to Rowley).

Speaking of haters, are authorities getting involved with the threats received by Rep. Bill Lippert (D-Hinesburg) thanks to Bill O'Reilly? This site and other Vermont sites have received hits from law enforcement via a Google search for "bill lippert fag".  It's not the norm for people in law enforcement to use department computers for personal use, so this is likely a sign of some sort of official inquiry or investigation. Book 'em Dano, I sez.

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Global Warming Week: Douglas v. Gore, Bush v. Earth

by: odum

Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 17:06:12 PM EDT

Climate Change has sure been the topic of the week.

Internationally, of course, Bush predictably rejected German Chancellor Merkel's proposals for greenhouse gas reduction benchmarks, but allowed her to attempt to save face by agreeing to some other meaningless promise to look into the matter, once again. Wonder how many backrubs that measly accomodation cost her.

Locally of course, Governor Douglas followed through on his promise to veto the Vermont Legislature's Climate Change bill, and on news that Al Gore's aid had been enlisted by the Legislative leadership, Douglas quickly cobbled together his own proposal in a failed attempt to steal Gore's thunder (instead, I think he may have added to it, based on the prodigious news coverage).

Douglas's plan at a glance seems odd. A thrown together jumble of half-considered ideas to provide loans to Vermonters for energy efficiency. As if low-income Vermonters will fall in line to heap more debt on themselves (of course, the banks must love it, as these loans would be guaranteed by the state). No idea where the funding for those guarantees will come from (well, we know it won't be Entergy). As for incentives for renewables, I haven't heard anything, and exactly what's supposed to be done with this proposal now that the biennium is done is anyone's guess. Wait til next year I s'pose. All in all, Douglas couldn't have piked a clearer way of showing how little regard or concern he has for the issue.

As for the Gore videoconference over Vermont Interactive Television, his remarks can be heard on VNRC's website. Freyne has a lot of quotes from Shumlin in the brief presser that followed, and he is absolutely right when he says that Shumlin was in top form. Seriously, this was the best he's sounded in many weeks, as he demonstrated a real command of the room. Symington as well seemed more focused and passionate than usual. I suppose the break has already done both of them some good.

And for a hastily thrown together event, it was surprisingly well-attended at the remote VIT sites around the state. It's a shame the tech didn't go off as well, as Gore's link to the VIT network was routed through the internet, rather than via ISDN or satellite (and we all know how the internet can be). After many fits and starts, Gore's audio was a mess and out of sync (you'll hear it if you go to the mp3 link above) - but it was nevertheless audible.

A veto override is still clearly a longshot, but there's an awful lot of focus and energy around the issue that seems to be snowballing, so contact your legislators if you haven't already (and maybe you should do it again if you have).

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