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Finally!

by: Jack McCullough

Thu Dec 02, 2010 at 22:32:15 PM EST


Cross-posted from Rational Resistance.


This is the strategy that many of us have been arguing for for months.

Using a wily procedural maneuver to tie Republican hands, House  Democrats managed to pass, by a vote of 234-188, legislation that will  allow the Bush tax cuts benefiting only the wealthiest Americans to  expire.

(Actually, I didn't know about the wily procedural maneuver, but for a long time I've been saying that they should just go ahead and pass the cuts for incomes up to $250,000 and just let the R's do whatever they're going to do, but the principle's the same.)

 They really put the Republicans in a box: vote for something they didn't like, or vote against tax cuts for people who make less than a quarter of a million a year. They chose the second option.

They can come back later in the lame duck session, or next year, and tell the American people that it wasn't good enough to cut taxes for 98% of us, they also want to cut taxes for the top 2%. Let them fight on that issue.

This is another major success for Nancy Pelosi. It also takes some of the pressure off Obama  to make a deal with the R's on the other stuff.

What's the down side? The Republicans stop being accommodating?

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Yes! (0.00 / 0)
No more Mr. Nice Guy.

Oh, boy... (0.00 / 0)
Obama is going to be so pissed off when he finds out that someone managed to pass a teeny bit of the Democratic agenda behind his back. After all, his by now famously failed approach has been to give the Republicans everything they want up front, and end up begging them to please take anything else they'd feel like grabbing after long and hard "negotiations". Then proceed focus on the seemingly more important task of blaming the resulting calamity on those pesky progressives.

It'll be morbidly fascinating to watch how he decides to make it up to his buddies in the GOP.  


Communist! (4.00 / 1)
"give the Republicans everything they want up front, and end up begging them to please take anything else they'd feel like grabbing"

And then call him a Communist after instantly handing the GOP everything they demanded!  

Which I take as proof that the Dems are in cahoots with - and not in opposition to - the Republican Party.


[ Parent ]
Place kicking (3.00 / 1)
 
Pelosi did the right thing, she fights,and lets see how this will play out in the Senate but ...
Even as lawmakers were debating the bill on the House floor, negotiators, including the Treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, were meeting in talks that all sides expected to end in a temporary extension of the tax rates for all income levels, perhaps for two or three years.
I have the feeling Obama doesn't even need Lucy to pull the football away as a kick is attempted. He is Charlie Brown trying to kick the football and he is Lucy pulling it away simultaneously.  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12...

Well (4.00 / 1)
What's the down side?

For one, I'd say the downside is that for 30 years the Republicans have controlled the media and messaging on economic issues (among others), and so they'll easily frame their demand for cuts for the top 2% as "job creation" and "economic stimulus", and most Americans- except for the progressive community, which doesn't vote for the GOP anyway and so they don't care about our opinion (nor do we have a voice in any mainstream media)- will continue to buy-into that "logic".  

Doing something good means nothing when those against you can simply say "it's not good, it's bad" and the press, conventional wisdom, political atmosphere, and popular culture are all unable or unwilling to look more deeply than sound-bites at the disagreement.

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Already crapped out (0.00 / 0)
The Senate deal has already fallen through. But of course, Obama fought so hard for this, didn't he?

You can read JD's latest at five before chaos. Politics. Godlessness. Music. Films of questionable quality. It's all there, folks.

aren't they still doing a vote on the 250k tax cut today? (0.00 / 0)
Did I misread that?

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[ Parent ]
Its not a tax cut for 98% of the American people. (4.00 / 2)
Its a tax cut for 100% of the American people.
The Rethuglicans are insisting on passing an ADDITIONAL tax cut for the 2% that earn over $250.000 a year. Let's stop falling into the trap of letting them frame the debate in their terms all the time.

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

huh (4.00 / 1)
Where is the reality here?

Since when is a single person who earns $200K even middle class?

Best I was able to find, the median wage in Vermont is about $14.95/hour for a 40 hr work week this yields $31,000 per year.

How many people do we know that earn $200K, and do they need a tax break?

Seems to me that the Ds and Rs are crazy with this tax stuff.

Instead we should skip this altogether, let the cuts sunset,  and help the people that really need it with our tax dollars.


I agree (0.00 / 0)
The top end of Middle Class in America is $99,999.  If you make $100K or more, you are wealthy.  If you make more then $250K, you are obscenely wealthy.

The bottom end of Middle Class is the above mentioned $30,000. And that's for a single person.  If you are making $30K and have one or more dependents (non-working spouse and-or children), then you are POOR!


[ Parent ]
not so fast (4.00 / 3)
two public school teachers could easily earn more than $100,000 (or a teacher and a Registered Nurse; or an electrician and a cop; etc.); they are not "wealthy"

if they have kids who are lucky / bright enough to get into top notch schools, they're screwed ($40k per year)

if one of them gets a serious illness and burns through their insurance, they're screwed

and if you think they should have saved a bundle over the years, remember that they're paid a small fortune for child care, which allowed them both to work but severely limited their ability to save

and so on


[ Parent ]
and Bush eliminated capital gains taxes... (4.00 / 1)
by eliminating capital gains!!  Retirement plans, 401ks, Keoghs, IRAs, 403bs, etc. all have taken a beating.   A beating that they will probably never recover from.

State and local retirement plans will be the next shoe to drop.  The states, counties, and cities can't print money.

Home equity, a key component for many people's retirement, has vanished for the vast majority since 2008.  


[ Parent ]
It makes no difference (0.00 / 0)
"vote against tax cuts for people who make less than a quarter of a million a year"

It doesn't matter if the Dems corner the GOP and get them on the record as opposing tax cuts for the non-wealthy.  No one will ever know it happened!  No one on Fox News will ever mention it, Rush Limbaugh won't mention it, Glenn Beck won't mention it.

The American People (that vote Republican) will never have a clue that the GOP voted against their tax cuts because the GOP propaganda outlets won't tell them.

This is a key part of the Democratic Leadership's strategy to hand all power to the GOP: do things that are a sop to the Democratic base without actually threatening the GOP's power.

So, yeah, the Dems make a useless gesture that only a handful of politically astute voters may ever hear about, but to which the vast majority of Americans will never know happened.

Yawn.  Let me know when the Democrats actually DO something to fight the GOP, not just put up a wall of smoke to make it look like they are doing something when they aren't really doing anything important - which till be NEVER!


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