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Ben & Bernie's

by: Sue Prent

Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 14:02:05 PM EST


As the first holiday hang-over begins to clear it's nice to see evidence that some good old habits don't die hard.  Today, Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry's, the state's biggest corporate success, joined that other icon of Vermont exceptionalism, Bernie Sanders in calling for an end to the Bush-era tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans.  With development of a hugely successful corporation in his personal history, Ben Cohen has repeatedly demonstrated his ongoing commitment to social justice.  

Senator Sanders had this to say:

...at a time when this country has a $13.7 trillion national debt it would be a huge mistake, over a ten year period, to add another $700 billion to that debt by providing more tax breaks for the wealthiest people in this country.

Citing the growing income inequity in this country and the desperate need of many on the lowest rungs of the economic ladder,  Sanders insists that we simply cannot afford to continue this largesse to the rich:

For people earning more than $1 million a year, the continuation of the Bush-era tax cuts would amount to an average tax break of about $100,000 a year. With the top one percent already earning, in 2007, 23.5 percent of all income in this country - more than the bottom 50 percent makes, that would be morally unfair and economically unwise.  Lastly, if we provide these tax breaks to people who don't need them and drive up the national debt, the demand to cut spending on programs of importance to the middle class and working families of our country would only accelerate. That means cuts in health care, education, nutrition, housing, LIHEAP, etc.

Senator Sanders is also proposing that in lieu of a cost of living adjustment (COLA), seniors and veterans be given, "at the very least," a one-time emergency check of $250.

The issue of extending the Bush-era tax cuts is likely to come up in the next week or so, says Sanders. One can only hope that, with the Blue Dogs largely a memory in the upcoming Congress and Republican obstructionism looming as an even harsher reality,  the Democrats will take this one last chance to address the ugly reality that we are slipping into the economic habits and profile of a third world country.  

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Ben & Bernie's | 13 comments
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Bush's tax cuts are like Vermont Yankee's vote in the VT legislature:

If NO action is taken, then they come to an end.

The ONLY way to continue either is to schedule a vote.

I firmly believe that the best course of action is to do nothing!  No vote, no tax breaks for the obscenely wealthy!


I want to see the Dems come out fighting on this. (4.00 / 1)
They shouldn't let the Republican's frame the arguments.  The Dems should own this issue and not just be seen as passively delaying until the clock runs out.

[ Parent ]
The Dems will NEVER fight the GOP - EVER (0.00 / 0)
The Democratic Leadership sold the party to the GOP during the Iran-Contra scandal of Saint Reagan.  Since that day, no Democrat has ever dared to stand up to their GOP overlords.

Presidents Clinton and now Obama are moderate Republicans acting as Democrats but not actually representing the platform of the party.  Obama's health care plan was originally the GOP's pretence at a response to the Dems' clamor for health care reform.  When the GOP paraded their crazy plan around, everyone laughed at how far-right extreme it was.  

But Fake Dem Obama took that plan and handed it back to the GOP, and they, seeing the perfect setup from their stooge, immediately went to war against their own plan and now every Republican Fox Voter knows with 100% certainty that this same health plan that the GOP was laughed out of Washington for is now radically far-left!

I am concerned about Senator Sanders.  He's not going to be around forever, and I don't see an heir apparent to his mantle of Socialist Firebrand.  The nation needs that particular viewpoint in the Senate.  

Senator Leahy has been getting more Conservative as the years go by, helping to end the regulations that kept the banking industry from intentionally collapsing the economy.  And Rep Welch is a Republican, so no help there...


[ Parent ]
luck (4.00 / 1)
Good luck on this.  The GOP wants these tax cuts first and foremost and will fight hard as hard as they can for their corporate employers.  While I hope Bernie and Ben will prevail, I wish them luck.  

Good luck with that... (4.00 / 1)
The D's just appointed Blue Dog extraordinaire Steve Israel to head up the DCCC -- Rahm Emanuel's old shop of corruption and inside-the-beltway shennanigans at the explicit expense of the voters that the D's are supposed to represent. The D's didn't exactly use their massive majority and unprecedented momentum over the past two years to get anything done (their idea of offense seemed to be handing the ball to the other team and putting themselves on the penalty bench), so the odds of them doing it now when they're on defense is slim.

No, I fear the Dems will take this "one last chance" to embarrass themselves as usual, standing firm like overcooked spaghetti and compromising and caving in drips and drabs until Sir Change-a-Lot can conveniently declare defeat and help push thru more tax cuts for the rich.

I can't wait to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath...


how righteous of ben & bernie (0.00 / 0)

how soon we forget that good ol
ben made his millons off the blood and sweat of starving dairy farmers - they got a dime out of every $3 pint he sold and now most of them are gone

and saint bernie touting the benefits of rail transport was instrumental in the destruction of the stJ and lc railroad - they shipped the rails to china

pardon me but the scum has a way of rising
to the top and it needs skimming off - all of it


As you seem to be new to this forum (4.00 / 3)
let me explain that the best way to make your case if you are citing ancient history, is to provide links to information that supports your observations.

No one who has been in public life for a very long time, has a perfect record of being on the right side all of the time.  However, the prevailing impulses of Bernie in politics and Ben in corporate ethics have been demonstrably more progressive than almost anyone who even comes close to their level of influence in those fields. If we are ever going to make any progress, we've got to stop this inclination to pulverize the good in pursuit of the perfect.  Yes, call 'em out in a timely manner when they do something we disagree with!  But let's not turn every conversation to ancient history unless it is directly relevant to the issue at hand.  If it is, it is only fair to provide everyone with a factual resource so that they can draw their own conclusions.


ancient history (0.00 / 0)
how dare you question my honesty - jest cuz i lied to ya yestiday an' the day afore

integrity is not renewed daily, we are all the product of our past - doing one thing right does not undo the vile actions of the past

the farmers are gone the railroad is gone and the ice cream factory belongs to unilever

the future has been altered by the actions of less than honorable men

maybe you are right, this forum seems to be the habitat of limp liberals


[ Parent ]
Well, I'm sorry you take offense at my request (4.00 / 2)
for supporting links.  The sale to Unilever was, as far as I know, the result of a stockholders' decision...and your original complaint was that "Ben made his millions...they got a dime out of every $3. pint he sold."  I was just suggesting you provide a link to some evidence because your statement doesn't give the reader much to go on in order to evaluate whether your charge is fair.

If this seems unreasonable to you,  I can't help you.  You won't get any farther in persuading us of the value of your issues by calling us names, I'm afraid.


[ Parent ]
One (0.00 / 0)
Would think that there would be some history of this (the railway issue for sure) in the press archives of by trolling the way back machine.  

[ Parent ]
ancient history (0.00 / 0)
how dare you question my honesty - jest cuz i lied to ya yestiday an' the day afore

integrity is not renewed daily, we are all the product of our past - doing one thing right does not undo the vile actions of the past

the farmers are gone the railroad is gone and the ice cream factory belongs to unilever

the future has been altered by the actions of less than honorable men

maybe you are right, this forum seems to be the habitat of limp liberals


[ Parent ]
Personally... (4.00 / 1)
...I don't know whether or not what you have to say is true, but I'm open to it.  Would you mind posting some evidence to support it?

Musician, Web Designer, Photographer

[ Parent ]
Get in line, you!!!! (0.00 / 1)
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