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This is gonna get messy

by: odum

Thu Dec 31, 2009 at 13:17:47 PM EST


A press release from the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) Local 300:

Montpelier, Vt. - (Dec. 30, 2009) - A coalition of construction unions will hold a press conference to announce their support for Vermont Yankee, a nuclear power facility whose license is up for renewal in 2012.  The event is open to the public, lawmakers and members of the media and will take place in the State House's Cedar Creek Room Jan. 4 at 1 p.m.

The Vermont Building and Construction Trades Council is a partnership of 15 labor unions that represent several thousand workers - many of whom work at Vermont Yankee as both year-round employees and subcontractors.  Jeff Potvin, business manager of UA Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 693, serves as president of the Council.

"Our members have logged thousands of hours at the facility since it opened," said Potvin. "Clearly, the subcontracting opportunities available at Vermont Yankee are immense.  They all pay above-average wages, health care and retirements benefits, and are vital to the regional economy.  The economic benefits are a big reason why the state's construction unions support re-licensing Vermont Yankee."

[...]"Closing Vermont Yankee would effectively squash hundreds of union jobs that pay wages far exceeding the norm for our area," said IBEW Local 300 President George Clain.  "Eliminating these careers, along with the almost certain rise of statewide electricity rates if Vermont Yankee exits our energy portfolio, is not in the best interests of working Vermonters.  Nor is it responsible to chase off an employer that annually pumps millions in payroll, state and local taxes, as well as $100 million in economic activity into the coffers."

[...]"Given our turbulent economy, Vermont is in need of quality jobs and access to reasonably priced, low-carbon, domestically-produced energy.  Vermont Yankee provides both," said Clain.  "Renewable power sources and efficiency should definitely be in the mix and will create jobs, but cannot reasonably be expected to replace Vermont Yankee in the near term.  Now is not the time to gamble with so many livelihoods."

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Yup (0.00 / 0)
That was inevitable.  And, sans a clear, thorough, thoughtful plan that is able (and has the political will) to be implimented today (or perhaps yesterday, or at least the day VY goes off-line)- a plan for renewable energy production and how such a scheme would provide for the laborors who would lose out with VY's closure- there is little hope for change in this situation.  Who can blame them?

"GMD's once proud libertarian-socialist"

Dismantling jobs (0.00 / 0)
My understanding has always been that the number of jobs required to dismantle the plant and return it to a greenfield make this basically a wash (at least for the next 10 years or so).  Does anyone have more information on this?

Yes, I've heard that too. (0.00 / 0)
I think the problem is that the decommissioning fund is so deficient that there will not be any dismantling done anytime in the near future.  It will just sit there, pulsing contained (hopefully) radioactivity, probably for decades.  However, that's no reason to allow it to keep operating.  What we have is an impossibly bad deal that just gets worse the longer we leave it in operation.  The portion of our power needs that this plant currently supplies to Vermont, coupled with the jobs involved, still doesn't come near to offsetting the known long-term losses we can anticipateas a result of allowing it to operate beyond it's "use-by" date, just in terms of additional waste generation issues and escalating decommissioning cost.  This does not even take into consideration the catastrophic risks that are associated with allowing an undercapitalized company to run this thing way beyond it's designed life-expectancy.  

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no (0.00 / 0)
the closure / clean-up jobs cannot be filled by existing plant workers; the task requires specialized training & skills and is always farmed out; I looked into a few years back and spoke with the guy who managed the shut down of Maine Yankee

it's a shame


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That would be about par for the course. (0.00 / 0)
There simply is no silver lining in Yankee's growing black cloud.

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Jobs half life (0.00 / 0)
 This slides together nicely with the recent PR blitz by Vermont Yankee .I Notice Peter Shumlin has softened his "no vote on Yankee"this session line.
The IBEW got beaten up in the Verizon/FairPoint deal and this looks like another rock and hard place situation.
http://www.burlingtonfreepress...

FairPoint? (0.00 / 0)
"The IBEW got beaten up in the Verizon/FairPoint deal and this looks like another rock and hard place situation."

And we all know how that worked out. (at least the FairPoint part)

Hopefully we won't have any systemic failures with VY.

So now we have a 'low' rate, a Union siding with the giganto corp, a Gov in the bag, legislators who might...?, and a PR blitz.

Wonder how this might have been different in a much better economy? When everyone was going to sell their home for 3x,5x,10x the value and retire to the sunny climes?

 


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VY (4.00 / 1)
Do not assume that all of Organized Labor supports nuclear power and/or relicensing VY. Also, The IBEW local representing the VY workers (Local 300) is not the same IBEW local that represents some of the Fairpoint workers (Local 2326).  

a sad affair (4.00 / 3)
but long-term energy policy should not be made on the basis of short-term considerations

this is exactly what we heard about the defense budget for decades; can't shift resources because it will cost jobs; the DOD is not stupid - there are defense jobs in virtually every congressional district in the U.S.

if Jim Douglas had not nixed the fully funded all fuels efficiency proposal, many of the VY workers could have been retrained to fill the new jobs (many of which are in the trades)

likewise, strong state support for wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, and district energy could put lots of tradespeople to work; this is smart economic development that solves problems AND creates jobs

and of course we have a serious shortage of affordable housing; if properly funded, it would create even more jobs; thus, more sensible economic development

instead, we spend millions subsidizing the tourist industry (low wage jobs) and giving tax "incentives" to businesses that often would have grown anyway (the phantom "but for")

the AFL-CIO founded the Apollo Alliance some years ago to deal with the issue of green jobs; the effort is supported by most major unions in the country, including the IBEW
http://apolloalliance.org/abou...
this is what we should be supporting
we have a responsibility to the VY workers; but there are alternatives to keeping the plant open


Looks like VY may be off the table for this year. (0.00 / 0)
Talked to a Senator this week who said he can't foresee a scenario under which the Legislature will take up any discussion on VY this year.   He said Entergy has "painted themselves into corner," I guess because they're offering high-priced power in a low-priced market, and he foresees their license expiring before Legislature could take it up.  

-M

simple (0.00 / 0)
Mixing the statements of the IBEW on VY with the discussion on closing due to the environmental issues is a little like looking at subgroups of apples in an apple/orange comparison.   I am not convinced the Union position is driven by any component of the clean dirty debate; it is simply one of necessity.  IF VY closes, there are no other jobs available for those workers.  Most of the economic growth that Doug talks about may be labor intensive, even wind growth, etc, but it does not involve organized labor or in a lot of cases, even LOCAL labor.  The wind farm over in UPSTATE was pretty huge... but also involved a substantial amount of folks who carpet bagged in from out of state to make it happen....   and except for the meals and motels, most of the money earned went back to the home state car dealer, walmart, etc.  

The whole unfair Point issue was just the preview of the discussion that Does Less and his boys set up to suck up to another campaign contribution opportunity...  

Be it sensible policy on Nuke power or Pharma or chicken plant inspection or healthcare... until effective campaign finance reform becomes a priority on the National level we will continue to pay with our pocket and lives.  

Remember when we actually built things in America??  I really regret wanting that Japanese transistor radio in 1958, I think I started the domino's falling.  Sorry.


the labor (0.00 / 0)
required for energy efficiency and affordable housing is a natural fit for tradespeople

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who are (0.00 / 0)
probably not IBEW members
most likely not unionized trades people
probably, if it is a large project, more than likely not Vermonters.

sorry state of affairs for construction trades in Vermont.  If you want a union contractor to put up steel, you need to go to Mass.  


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perhaps (4.00 / 1)
but if the goal is to help these dislocated workers find new jobs, I haven't heard any better suggestions

as for whether the jobs will require unionized workers, that's an important but secondary issue

as for the use of out-of-state labor, that is certainly not the case for all the folks hired and contracted by Efficiency Vermont (which is an excellent employer); if some need retraining, we should find the money

and many affordable housing projects don't require steel; we're talking homes, condos, and apartments here

I share your frustration about these issues but I'm not quite sure why you're being so negative about a perfectly reasonable suggestion


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IBEW Local 300 is currently implementing a training program (0.00 / 0)
For their tradespeople to become certified to install solar and wind in VT.

Policies that make it easier for pros to get their certification would be a nice start. Why should they go through exactly the same process I'd have to go through, when my expertise lies in wiring up an occasional outlet in my own off-grid cabin, not, for example, wiring up an entire grid-connected modern house with 220 and 110 volt appliances, GFCI circuits, and more.

Policies that make it dead-easy for homeowners to take the alt energy plunge would be another good start (the feed-in tariff has been great).

Beware the Everyday Brutality of the Averted Gaze


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I just gave a workshop (4.00 / 1)
to a room full of licensed electricians on the basics of installing PV (solar electricity). It was organized by Renewable Energy Vermont and sponsored by the Dept. of Labor and Industry. There's a lot of interest out there.

What alternative energy needs is the same kind of no-hassle financing that the automotive industry enjoys.

The whole question of nuclear jobs may be moot in a few years when the "megatons to megawatts" program stops. We're working with a worldwide uranium shortfall of about 13%, made up with down-blended HEU from decommissioned warheads. Watch for a price spike in 2013: http://www.minorheresies.com/e...

Minor Heretic
"Damned for 25% of eternity"


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