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Lessons for Vermont in last night's elections

by: odum

Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:52:07 AM EST


It's hard to find lessons for Vermont in last night's election results as each election was so different. Dramatically different electorates all voting under truly unique conditions. Social conservatives took it in the gut (NY), social liberals took it in the gut (ME), moderates took it in the gut (VA), and space aliens continued to thrive (NYC).

I do see one arena with a potential message for us, and that's Virginia. The first lesson is obvious. If the 5 Democrats in Vermont's primary gubernatorial race allow their electioneering to become the kind of scorched-earth nastiness that we saw in Virginia, they're liable to cause the same effect; the candidates with the smarts and capability to actually run a statewide campaign could essentially cancel each other out, and the last one standing could be the lamest of all.

This is exactly the opposite effect that a healthy primary will have. If the candidates can keep it from getting nasty, rather than follow the path of Creigh Deeds, the winner will follow the path of Virginia's Senator Jim Webb and others like him across the country.

The other lesson from Virginia is in the numbers, and its the most important lesson of all.  

odum :: Lessons for Vermont in last night's elections
It wasn't that long ago that I was - once again - hearing from Democratic Party electioneers that the path to victory is always to run to the center (one person - who should really know better - even used the downright delusional example of Peter Welch to make the point. Say what you want about Welch, but he sure as hell ain't a Blue Dog).

Elections are algebraic equations. They are about balancing several variables, where the known value of some of those variables vary from place to place, election to election. Those who dumb down electioneering to "take the center" either have a deeply dumbed down view of elections and the social psychology behind them in general, or - more often - they are simply being self-serving. Most of the folks who insist that elections are always won in the center are simply themselves centrists and don't want to feel bothered to expend the brain power required to step outside their own comfort zone and engage in a more nuanced - more accurate - analysis of what exactly is going on in a given election.

I don't doubt that in some elections, centrism will carry the day. But the biggest lesson provided by Deeds in Virginia is how - even in a close race - mindlessly aping that mantra and blindly acting on it can be a ticket to disaster, as it may or may not be the main dynamic in play in any given election.

In Virginia, it most certainly wasn't, and the numbers bear that out with little-to-no room for alternate interpretation. From FDL (via dKos):

In Virginia this year, one poll showed the percentage of the likely electorate under the age of 30 falling 70% from 2008-and the African American share of the vote falling 39% from 2008! That's why virtually every poll has shown today's likely electorate as having voted for John McCain by double digits over Barack Obama in Virginia last year-despite Virginia having voted almost exactly the reverse.

Unfortunately for us, the Deeds campaign freaked out and read these polls wrong over the summer. Instead of attempting to energize more young and minority voters to the polls to make the electorate more representative of Virginia-they began running a campaign targeted to the people already planning to vote. Creigh began bashing federal Democratic priorities like "Cap and Trade" and health care reform to appeal to the conservatives that were headed to the polls.

And every time he did it, polls indicated turnout shriveled even further among Democrats and progressive voters-making the electorate even older, whiter, and more conservative. To which Creigh responded to by bashing federal Democrats more-which resulted in even more progressives becoming disengaged. Over and over, the cycle continued. Over the last six weeks, PPP polls indicated the share of the electorate that identified as Democrats declined from 38% to 31%. In other words almost one out of every five self-identified Democrats planning to vote on Labor Day has since then looked at Creigh Deeds and his conservative message, and decided they weren't voting. Ouch!

Election realities can be inconvenient for those who want to cling religiously to simplistic preconceptions. And the reality is that just running rightward is way too simple. It always has been.

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Not a big Ben Tribbett fan (4.00 / 1)
but when he's right, he's right.

Markos said it a little more tightly:

 

1.  If you abandon Democratic principles in a bid for unnecessary "bipartisanship", you will lose votes.

  2. If you water down reform in favor of Blue Dogs and their corporate benefactors, you will lose votes.

  3. If you forget why you were elected -- health care, financial services, energy policy and immigration reform -- you will lose votes....

.....The choice is yours. Give us a reason to vote for you, or we sit home. And you aren't going to make up the margins with conservative voters. They already know exactly who they're voting for, and it ain't you.

Abandon the base to court people who ain't gonna vote for you even if you put a gun to their heads or promise them the moon......and you end up like Creigh Deeds.

Odum said:

This is exactly the opposite effect that a healthy primary will have. If the candidates can keep it from getting nasty, rather than follow the path of Creigh Deeds

Objection, yer honor. The nasty in the primary by and large came from the Moran and McAuliffe campaigns. All Deeds had to do was sit back and watch the M boys nuke hell out of each other.

Unfortunately, he didn't have that luxury in the general.



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My point exactly. (4.00 / 2)
You changed the meaning of my statement by cutting off the last line. The full statement reads:

If the candidates can keep it from getting nasty, rather than follow the path of Creigh Deeds, the winner will follow the path of Virginia's Senator Jim Webb and others like him across the country.

The tough candidates nuked each other, the lame candidate was left standing. The path of Creigh Deeds was a path to defeat. The point is that path was provided for him (and the VA Dems) by a nasty primary, even though he wasn't the one doing the nasty.

Nullius perfectus est


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Ah, okay, my bad. (0.00 / 0)
Doing couple things at once here and missed it. I stand corrected....or uncorrecting....or something.

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On the flipside... (0.00 / 0)

I'm not particularly a fan of David Axelrod, but this statement makes sense to me.

"I don't think these elections reflect any particular national trends, other than the situation within the Republican Party..."


I tend to agree. (4.00 / 1)
In fact, on NPR this morning someone (I was driving so I didn't make note of whom)observed that since 1989, every time there was a vote for governor in the year following election of a new president (which only happens in New Jersey and Virginia), the election went to the party that did not occupy the White House.  The commentator said that this might be more a reflection of political habits in those two states rather than some sort of referendum specifically on the Obama administration.

Whoops! (0.00 / 0)
That was meant to be a response to Christian's post.

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There is that, yes. (4.00 / 1)
And it certainly was not a referendum on the Obama administration, despite those who might try to frame it that way.......

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My favorite commentary so far (0.00 / 0)

From Gail Collins:

Although there is no way to deny that New Jersey and Virginia were terrible, horrible, disastrous, cataclysmic blows to Obama's prestige. No wonder the White House said he was not watching the results come in. How could the man have gotten any sleep after he realized that his lukewarm support of an inept candidate whose most notable claim to fame was experience in hog castration was not enough to ensure a Democratic victory in Virginia?

New Jersey was even worse. The defeat of Gov. Jon Corzine made it clear that the young and minority voters who turned out for Obama will not necessarily show up at the polls in order to re-elect an uncharismatic former Wall Street big shot who failed to deliver on his most important campaign promises while serving as the public face of a state party that specializes in getting indicted.




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