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Maine Marriage Results (breaking, to be updated as needed)

by: NanuqFC

Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 22:38:13 PM EST


[[Last update, 8:30 a.m., Nov. 4: From Vermont Freedom to Marry:
With 87% of precincts reporting, voters repealed Maine's equal marriage law by a 52-47 margin, setting aside that state's recently-enacted law allowing same-sex couples to legally marry.  (The law had not yet taken effect.)  We decry this hurtful and unjust outcome that harms Mainers in every community, in every family, and in every walk of life.

{heavy sigh} ]]

[[Update #3: 51.99% for repeal of marriage equality; 48.01%  for preserving marriage equality as of midnight with 75% of precincts reporting. I'm going to bed, and I'll take another look in the morning. Aren't we glad we don't have a second-guessing referendum system here?!]]

[[Update #2:  Yes (for repeal) 51.58%    No  171171 48.42%; word is that the cities' votes are in and it's now the rural and absentee votes that are hanging. Not looking hopeful; likely recount with numbers this close.]]

According to the Bangor Daily News, Maine voters are following the script of 30 other states by supporting the repeal of the Marriage Equality law their legislators passed and their governor signed last spring. As of  10:20 pm, the margin is 51.83% for repeal to 48.17% against repeal and in support of keeping marriage equality.

[[Update 1: 28% of the precincts reporting at 10:20 pm]]

There are a LOT of precincts still to report their votes, including Lewiston & Auburn in Androscoggin County;  Caribou and Houlton (sharing over 10k voters between them) in Aroostook County (far north, inland, potato country), and not to mention St. Agatha with 666 voters;  much of semi-urban and urban Cumberland County including Portland, South Portland, and Brunswick precincts; Franklin County, with only three towns showing over 1,000 voters (New Sharon, Rangeley, and Strong); Hancock County (Bar Harbor and Ellsworth and surrounding areas, including Township 28 with 3 registered voters); Kennebec County, including the state capital Augusta, Waterville -- home of Colby College, my alma mater -- and a whole slew of towns with over 1000 voters apiece; Knox County (Camden area, mid-northern coast); Lincoln County (Damariscotta and Waldoboro being the two biggest towns not yet reporting, mostly coastal, includes Boothbay Harbor); Oxford County, home of Paris and Denmark and Peru and Sweden, along with Fryeburg, along the NH border inland; Penobscot County, including Bangor and Orono (University of Maine); Piscataquis County -- northern and inland, devastated by the loss of manufacturing jobs over the last 40 years, especially in Dover-Foxcroft; Bath area, home of the Bath Ironworks, major shipbuilding, with recent layoffs announced -- in Sagadahoc County, north of Portland; Somerset County, whose most recognizable town to those of us who don't live there is Skowhegan; Waldo County, which includes Belfast (north of Camden, southeast of Bangor, if you're following along); Washington County (we're almost done here) where if you went further north along the coast, you'd be in New Brunswick, Eastport and Lubec right along the border, and Township 19 has 2 registered voters; and finally, York County, at the other end of the state, including Kittery (home of many mega outlet malls), and Biddeford, and Kennebunkport (home of you know who, at least in the summer); and Saco, and York Beach, York Center, and Ogunquit by the sea.

It's gonna be a long night.

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Depressing. (4.00 / 1)
Very depressing.

Everybody loses. (0.00 / 0)
All this does is postpone the inevitable.  At some point equal marriage will be mandated by Maine courts.  Maine has lost their chance to be the forward looking enlightened state that chose to recognize equal marriage rights by legislative means. Now Maine is one of the states in which some residents have decided to deny human rights to other residents.

-M

State-by-state has to end (0.00 / 0)
The court ruling that must and will come, will be at the Federal level. Throwing same-gender couples to the wolves on state-by-state basis (and letting the MSM get away with calling it a "social issue") is disgusting and must - and will - end. Someday. It's that arc of the universe, bending towards justice. (MLK)

Haiku anyone?

On the white ume,
the night has
only to lighten
and end.
         -Buson


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If the feds want to treat marriage as a guaranteed right ... (0.00 / 0)
then the feds should institute a federal marriage. Without that the feds should stick to "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."(US constitution, Article 4, Section 1)

The Dumb Ox Marriage Act (aka Dumba or DOMA) is an obvious violation of the preceding constitutional article by virtue of it dealing with a very specific type of contract as opposed to a general application applying to those "Acts, Records and Proceedings".

Further the feds should ensure that Article 1, Section 10 is abided by (my emphasis): "No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility."

Marriage itself is not a federal function, and while I agree outcomes such as Maine's are indefensible, I would rather keep chasing this through the states with the feds handling the two above arbitrating constitutional clauses.

It's about community ... RAMABAHAMA DOT NET (only it is still under construction ... isn't that life?)


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It's a civil rights issue (0.00 / 0)
You know, equal protection under the law and all that. And why is it that gay people are the only class of citizens subject to having their rights put to a popular vote?

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I agree it's a civil rights issue at the state level ... (0.00 / 0)
but it's not at the federal level. The federal government is not the one issuing marriage licenses. Marriage is a contract with a boiler plate template, and that is how the feds should be treating it. If a given state recognizes equality in marriage, then the federal government should ensure that those contracts are recognized and honored throughout the union.

Don't misunderstand me: I am unequivocally in favor of strong families and that includes allowing two people to enter into marriage regardless their gender(s). Period. Without hesitation and in loudly in public.

I just happen to feel that if the federal government wants to get into the business of marriage, then the federal government should start issuing marriage licenses. And I'm not against this concept.

It's about community ... RAMABAHAMA DOT NET (only it is still under construction ... isn't that life?)


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